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    Quote Originally Posted by XPac View Post
    From my understanding though, I think mutants in marvel specifically refers to people with the X gene or whatever.

    Franklin was born with powers... but he's something somewhat different. It wasn't really that he had the X gene but rather that his folks were radiated with cosmic rays.

    So I think you can still have people born with powers, who are mutated in the general sense... just not specifically with the X gene that X-Men mutants have. Or at least I think that's how that works.
    I'm pretty sure they've established Franklin as a mutant. I think it was in Onslaught or God Loves, Man Kills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zen-aku View Post
    its confusing because then Mardox isn't a mutant, yet Namor is.
    Madrox is, he just got his powers from birth, like Tryp and Nightcrawler. He does have an X-Gene. It think they're simply a sub-type of mutants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lascoden View Post
    Madrox is, he just got his powers from birth, like Tryp and Nightcrawler. He does have an X-Gene. It think they're simply a sub-type of mutants.
    Mardox's original orgin is that he became irradiatied din the womb and that's why he had powers

    and Franklin was confirmed as a mutant a bunch of times, he even asks his parents why people hate "people like me"

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    Furthermore How can you just randomly sprout powers, their has to be some reason some explination for it!

    Like if there powers aren't the result of a mutation what the hell happend?

    Did mettle get bit by a radioactive metal guy?

    How dose Mr. Hydes formula give Quake Seismic generation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zen-aku View Post
    Furthermore How can you just randomly sprout powers, their has to be some reason some explination for it!

    Like if there powers aren't the result of a mutation what the hell happend?

    Did mettle get bit by a radioactive metal guy?
    he was hit in the face by a surfboard. it would have been a devastating injury if the trauma hadn't unlocked his genetic potential.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monty_Cristo View Post
    he was hit in the face by a surfboard. it would have been a devastating injury if the trauma hadn't unlocked his genetic potential.
    ....are you being sarcastic or do you actualy think that is a valid and logical explanation.....because unless it was a magic surfboard iam missing how it "Unlocked his potential" with out mutation playing a factor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monty_Cristo View Post
    from an evolutionary standpoint, they are the way they are so that they won't reproduce. the X-men have many "freaks" on board; especially the student body.
    That's why I like WotX. For me the school stuff is much more interesting than the superhero stuff. Interestingly enough I'm not a huge Avengers Academy fan though. I liked Initiative much more.
    My Heroes For Hire: Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Misty Knight, Colleen Wing, The Falcon, Ant-Man (Scott Lang). White Tiger IV and Powerman would be interns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon McKinnis View Post
    That's why I like WotX. For me the school stuff is much more interesting than the superhero stuff. Interestingly enough I'm not a huge Avengers Academy fan though. I liked Initiative much more.
    I suppose that's the upside of the Schism... for now at least you get both.

    You get stories of the school in one side, and stories of King Cyclops in his little kingdom on the other. Options are good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon McKinnis View Post
    That's why I like WotX. For me the school stuff is much more interesting than the superhero stuff. Interestingly enough I'm not a huge Avengers Academy fan though. I liked Initiative much more.
    Iniative was new and different in its approach and execution

    Academy is like the ugly bastard of Runaways and New X-men

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    Quote Originally Posted by wayfarejourneyman View Post
    Depends on where the second one is, lol.
    I'll give you a hint, but you "taint" gonna like it.
    My Heroes For Hire: Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Misty Knight, Colleen Wing, The Falcon, Ant-Man (Scott Lang). White Tiger IV and Powerman would be interns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XPac View Post
    From my understanding though, I think mutants in marvel specifically refers to people with the X gene or whatever.

    Franklin was born with powers... but he's something somewhat different. It wasn't really that he had the X gene but rather that his folks were radiated with cosmic rays.

    So I think you can still have people born with powers, who are mutated in the general sense... just not specifically with the X gene that X-Men mutants have. Or at least I think that's how that works.
    Franklin has the gene and the radiation working for him. the whiole X-gene concept makes me wince whenever it comes up, the writer knowledge of genetics was limited to his ability to spell the words. Not as strange as "Quantum energy" but close
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    Quote Originally Posted by wayfarejourneyman View Post
    Well, maybe after this, mutants will get a population boost but not too much of one. I would love to see some new faces in the x-verse.
    Frankly, I'd like to see them do more with the Xkids they've got now.

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    Truly. For all the talk of wanting to see newer mutant characters, isn't most of the cast of New X-Men basically fighting for page presence? I'm sure seeing Match in an issue of an X book is like the moon landing for some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XPac View Post
    Considering the circumstances, I honestly think plenty of people might consider putting Hoping in some sort of custody. Cyclops objections is understandable... but to argue that shooting at Steve is a good idea makes no sense.

    Firstly, Scott throwing the first punch. If Scott wants the upper hand from a PR standpoint, allow Cap to throw attack first. IF Cap does, then Scott can defend himself and come off looking like roses in the process. If Cap doesn't attack, then it's a non-issue. Either way, Scott was better served by trying to at least look lime the more diplomatic one. If you think Scott ends up looking BETTER in the eyes of the world by shooting first, you're kidding yourself there. Again, Frezy at least showed some brains. Not that I approve of what she did... but she was smart about it.

    Secondly, just because Steve brought an army doesn't necessarily mean he's going to use it. It's POSSIBLE that if he's convinced otherwise, or if Hope is simply teleported away, Steve won't end up attacking anyone.

    Bottom line is Scott had other options and he can still choose to attack at a later point if those other options fail. There's simply no reason he couldn't try and talk things out. IF that fails and Steve attacks, then Scott can defend his island with the benefit of knowing that this conflict wasn't started by him and he was doing what he literally had to do. If Steve chooses to talk or simply leave, then Scott's at worse is no worse off than before.
    But Scott used a Press release to discredit the Avengers, and he was the one who attack Cap first, so does that make him a bad guy overall ?

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    Man, Cyke is gonna bite it at the end of this. I just know it. Well it was inevitable i guess.
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