Wolverine and the X Men issue 10 review: Medium weight spoilers

[Slant]

Because it really seems that while they sided with Wolverine, if Scott were to ask, they'd go flocking right back under his leadership faster than you can say X-Men.

That is almost exactly what would happen.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

It's canon that Emma Frost is the only x-character who prefers teaching to super-heroics.

[ExodusCloak]

This issue was pretty good, if not predictable as far as the X-Men siding with Cyclops. Though one thing this issue had brought to my mind was moments like this make me wonder what the point of Schism was. I mean Bobby basically flat out states that he joined Wolverine only because he needed him, not because he disagreed with Scott. This makes me wonder, aside from Beast, just how many of the adults are on Wolverine's side because they actually believe in what Gold team stands for opposed to what Blue team does. Because it really seems that while they sided with Wolverine, if Scott were to ask, they'd go flocking right back under his leadership faster than you can say X-Men.

That was what was shown in the Regenesis one-shot. Storm and Emma were the same. Wolverine went after Iceman, Rachel, Havok and Polaris because he thought it was strategic.

[jarrod]

This issue was pretty good, if not predictable as far as the X-Men siding with Cyclops. Though one thing this issue had brought to my mind was moments like this make me wonder what the point of Schism was. I mean Bobby basically flat out states that he joined Wolverine only because he needed him, not because he disagreed with Scott. This makes me wonder, aside from Beast, just how many of the adults are on Wolverine's side because they actually believe in what Gold team stands for opposed to what Blue team does. Because it really seems that while they sided with Wolverine, if Scott were to ask, they'd go flocking right back under his leadership faster than you can say X-Men.

They're all there because they believe in the school and what it means*. That doesn't necessarily mean they oppose Utopia completely though.


*except Frenzy lol

[Prodigy55]

this was so good. i cant believe it. i cried.

[Pixie_Solanas]

Over flesh-carved earrings?

[Prodigy55]

i would tear you apart, little boy. like the bear does the baby goat.

[jarrod]

i would tear you apart, little boy. like the bear does the baby goat.

lol, Aaron's Yana was great. I take back what I said to Aces, we're most def missing out by not having Fake Devil as a student at JGS. This was the best Illyana since Zeb.

[Barachiel]

That is almost exactly what would happen.

Y'see this is what a lot of people are getting wrong with the whole Schism thing, *including* Wolverine.

For the *bulk* of the X-Men, the Schism was about whether or not kids should be on the front line. The nicer X-men, sick of the constant wartime footing, sided with Wolvie, and went back and re-opened the school.

Cyclop's problem with that is that, tactically, this was the stupidest decision they could make, and the number of direct attacks on the school since it reopened would seem to bear him out. But I digress.

For Wolvie however, its about so much more than keeping kids safe. Sure, that's his justification, but it's gotten way more personal than that. He trashtalks Cyclops to anyone who will listen. He lies (excuse me, creatively interprets the truth) about the Phoenix for the Avengers. He keeps running a kill squad that CYCLOPS, the man he hates, thought was a bad idea, but is still all about keeping kiddies safe.

This latest isuse of WAXM clinched it for me: the school is just Wolvie's way of giving Cyclops the bird, especially with the name. He wants one thing, and one thing only, to hurt Cyke in every conceivable way, at any available juncture.

Scott, for all his faults, has been nothing but rational and understanding (since the big brawl on the beach, at least). And this issue showed what coming at a problem calmly and rationally while your most vocal critic goes around frothing at the mouth: Cyclops has learned to play the PR game, with more than just the public.

Honestly, the ONLY thing keeping the teams split is Logan. Take the hairy little psychopath out of the equation, and both sides could just agree to disagree, do their own thing, and come together when needed. WAXM and Legacy proved that. The best thing for the school right now is for Headmistress Kitty to kick Logan out when she finds out about the Living Hypocrisy That is Wolverine, with his X-Force and straight up murder attempt on Hope.

[Kurolegacy]

They're all there because they believe in the school and what it means*. That doesn't necessarily mean they oppose Utopia completely though.


*except Frenzy lol

While they may not completely oppose Utopia, the fact remains that they're helping Scott to use a teenage girl while gambling earth on the chance that this works which stands as a contradiction of Gold side considering that they refuse to use children. So that basically makes the hypocrites considering they want to just start back up where they left off when this is all over. And while Wolverine is also a hypocrite for trying to kill Hope, that was at least a deal that the two had made. While Wolverine may not have intentions of helping Hope, it wasn't a lie that they could help Hope from the Avengers side without risking the Earth.

[darknessatnoon]

And while Wolverine is also a hypocrite for trying to kill Hope, that was at least a deal that the two had made.

You think it's okay for Wolverine to make a murder-suicide pact with a little girl?

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Honestly, the ONLY thing keeping the teams split is Logan. Take the hairy little psychopath out of the equation, and both sides could just agree to disagree, do their own thing, and come together when needed. WAXM and Legacy proved that. The best thing for the school right now is for Headmistress Kitty to kick Logan out when she finds out about the Living Hypocrisy That is Uncanny X-Force.

You're giving Kitty too much credit.

She's aware of UXM and is fine with it as long as it doesn't affect the school's daily activities.

Edit: Hell, if memory serves correctly, Kitty and Hank weren't even *surprised*.

[Kurolegacy]

You think it's okay for Wolverine to make a murder-suicide pact with a little girl?

Considering the power that she possesses and the deal was that should she become a danger for him to kill her, yes. It's not something easy, but sometimes doing something for the greater good isn't. Would you rather she grow into a massive threat that causes yet another dark future because no one did what needed to be done when it because apparent?

For all the crap I give her, Hope is mature enough from what she's lived through to be able to make such a decision for herself. Like Genesis, she could be a messiah or a bringer of destruction. That was just her contingency plan in case it's the later.

[darknessatnoon]

Considering the power that she possesses and the deal was that should she become a danger for him to kill her, yes. It's not something easy, but sometimes doing something for the greater good isn't. Would you rather she grow into a massive threat that causes yet another dark future because no one did what needed to be done when it because apparent?

People need to stop worrying about the future not going according to plan. It's paranoid.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Considering the power that she possesses and the deal was that should she become a danger for him to kill her, yes. It's not something easy, but sometimes doing something for the greater good isn't. Would you rather she grow into a massive threat that causes yet another dark future because no one did what needed to be done when it because apparent?

Didn't Jean use the Phoenix's power to, hum, prevent one of those?

Point is, it can go either way.