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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoks View Post
    They were shown to be similar during their two brief fights before.
    And that was when Moonknight still had his powers. They're gone now right?

    Thought the issue was ok, Frenzy definatley stole the show imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jarrod View Post
    Trollbeast already dumped Logan for his new bff Captain Britain. Onwards and upwards!
    He likes Brian, because Brian is sure to do something stupid that Beast can blame the failure of his devices on.

    As to She-Hulk, she's really a hypocrite. Besides being a hulk, she's also been on Defenders teams with the Flaming Skull before. Glob can't look much different than that all lit up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by red eyes View Post
    And that was when Moonknight still had his powers. They're gone now right?

    Thought the issue was ok, Frenzy definatley stole the show imo.
    Yeah, he's just a psycho human now. Gambit should be exponentially faster and more agile than him, to the point where MoonKnight can't even land a punch at this point.

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    As she is a noted keynote speaker at Reed Richards' annual Future Fest seminar (laden with dumb moloids and walking slugs), I expect better from Jen Walters. Such blatant bigotry, unacceptable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UserIDGoesHere View Post
    What exactly are the Avengers accomplishing other than persecuting mutants? Steve's great plan is to upset the potential Phoenix host, even though that will most likely turn her more Dark Phoenix-y and then to what, take her off planet? She can get back any time she wants and destroy everything. Wolverine's great plan is to kill the potential Phoenix host, which is really stupid ... the thing is destroying worlds without a host. Scott's plan is the only one that makes any sense - train the potential host to handle the Phoenix, just as Rachel did and Jean did in her second round when she was more prepared.
    no steves plan was to take her willingly off planet and mabye she could be trained there, but they should do evrey thing they can to pospone the firebird from getting to earth until it is under her or otherwise under control. and they are not persecuting mutants, they arent doing this cus they are mutants. there doing this to the people (who happen to be mutants) cus thease people want a distructive force to come to earth
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    Quote Originally Posted by UserIDGoesHere View Post
    That was great. So funny to see She-Hulk's bigotry at the forefront, seeing mutants as monsters. You'd think that a hulk would be more sympathetic.
    she wasnt seeing mutants in General as monsters, she was just describing the one who has a monstrous form but you and rogue and placeing untrue bigotistic lables on her for it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Movieartman View Post
    she wasnt seeing mutants in General as monsters, she was just describing the one who has a monstrous form but you and rogue and placeing untrue bigotistic lables on her for it
    Wait... what? Calling Glob a monster isn't bigotted? Do you walk around calling people with birthdefects monsters because they have "a monstrous form"?

    Oh, Avengers fans...

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    I'm sorry, when did Steve express it was going to be Hope's choice or that they were going to train her at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dkostus View Post
    Wait... what? Calling Glob a monster isn't bigotted? Do you walk around calling people with birthdefects monsters because they have "a monstrous form"?

    Oh, Avengers fans...
    no but he wa attacking her then its ok

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    Quote Originally Posted by Movieartman View Post
    no steves plan was to take her willingly off planet and mabye she could be trained there, but they should do evrey thing they can to pospone the firebird from getting to earth until it is under her or otherwise under control. and they are not persecuting mutants, they arent doing this cus they are mutants. there dioing this to the people (who happen to be mutants) cus thease people want a distructive force to come to earth
    Willingly? Steve wanted to take her willingly? You're joking, right? He launched a full-scale seize of Utopia, telling Cyclops that he "wasn't asking" for Cyke's permission to take Hope, and you think her will had anything at all to do with it?

    There is nothing, and I mean nothing, the Avengers or anyone else could possibly do to stop this destructive force from coming to earth if it wanted to. Moving Hope, killing Hope, doing whatever to Hope will not help and only delay the inevitable - probably only by a few seconds, at that. The BEST course of action is to not piss off the PF and to give it a reason to care about the earth and not want to eat it like it was a skittle.

    Like someone else mentioned, a 13 year old Kitty had more exposure and experience with the PF than anyone on the Avengers ever has. They deal with it on a semi-regular basis, and one of the teachers at the school the Avengers have decided to grossly put under house arrest was a long time host of the PF - who was very much able to not kill everyone while harnessing it.

    TL;DR - The threat of the PF is real, but the Avengers are going about this like desperate amateurs and grade-school bullies and they rightfully deserve to be trounced on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Movieartman View Post
    no but he wa attacking her then its ok
    No it's not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xhx23x View Post
    I'm sorry, when did Steve express it was going to be Hope's choice or that they were going to train her at all?
    BILLIONS OF LIVES ARE AT STAKE! he wanted to take her willingly but billions of lives are at risk a single girls rights dont bloody matter.

    and really kicking and blasting the crap out of her is really the best way to train her to control a cosmic entity great F$$king plan Cyclops. if they really wanted to prepare her for the firebird they would have emma train her mentaly and streanthen her mind to be able to resist the Pheniox's control and be able to bend it to her own will, physicaly training her anit to the point of abuse isnt gonna do shit but make her made

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    Quote Originally Posted by Movieartman View Post
    BILLIONS OF LIVES ARE AT STAKE! he wanted to take her willingly but billions of lives are at risk a single girls rights dont bloody matter.

    and really kicking and blasting the crap out of her is really the best way to train her to control a cosmic entity great F$$king plan Cyclops. if they really wanted to prepare her for the firebird they would have emma train her mentaly and streanthen her mind to be able to resist the Pheniox's control and be able to bend it to her own will, physicaly training her anit to the point of abuse isnt gonna do shit but make her made
    The same method they used on Fongji and she obviously saved the Earth.

    Get facts, read the books, have someone explain then to you with easier words, get a spell check and then post. You're derailing the threat with nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Movieartman View Post
    and really kicking and blasting the crap out of her is really the best way to train her to control a cosmic entity great F$$king plan Cyclops. if they really wanted to prepare her for the firebird they would have emma train her mentaly and streanthen her mind to be able to resist the Pheniox's control and be able to bend it to her own will, physicaly training her anit to the point of abuse isnt gonna do shit but make her made
    time to go pick up your copy of this week's new avengers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by murdershewrote View Post
    Willingly? Steve wanted to take her willingly? You're joking, right? He launched a full-scale seize of Utopia, telling Cyclops that he "wasn't asking" for Cyke's permission to take Hope, and you think her will had anything at all to do with it?

    There is nothing, and I mean nothing, the Avengers or anyone else could possibly do to stop this destructive force from coming to earth if it wanted to. Moving Hope, killing Hope, doing whatever to Hope will not help and only delay the inevitable - probably only by a few seconds, at that. The BEST course of action is to not piss off the PF and to give it a reason to care about the earth and not want to eat it like it was a skittle.

    Like someone else mentioned, a 13 year old Kitty had more exposure and experience with the PF than anyone on the Avengers ever has. They deal with it on a semi-regular basis, and one of the teachers at the school the Avengers have decided to grossly put under house arrest was a long time host of the PF - who was very much able to not kill everyone while harnessing it.

    TL;DR - The threat of the PF is real, but the Avengers are going about this like desperate amateurs and grade-school bullies and they rightfully deserve to be trounced on.
    he only commitded siege to the island when they refused, and billions of lives hang in the balance they damn sure are in the right! they probley know taking hope off world wont stop the bird from getting her but at least when it does and if she is UN able to control it wont be on earth itself and there might be time to evacute the planets population before the firebird gets here

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