Avengers 2 (News & Speculation)

[XPac]

I know.

But, God, that would be awesome if Marvel Studios could work out some sort of inter-studio deal with Sony-Columbia Pictures and Fox where they could use Spider-man and Wolverine in a limited capacity and reciprocally those studios could use Nick Fury and SHIELD in a limited capacity in their films. Something like that. It would've been great to get a Spider-man scene in The Avengers while the battle was going on in NYC, perhaps something where he swings in and saves some civilians and is just in the movie for a minute or less. Or with Wolverine in a bar watching the news and he suddenly gets up, leaves a $20 on the bar and mutters to himself "free fight" and walks out the door. That would've been great IMO.

I wish they could get Fox and Sony to at least allow guys like Peter and WOlverine to do small cameos. Small little easter eggs would be fun.

I think they wanted Peter Parker to have a small role in the Hulk movie, and Logan in the Cap movie. But obviously neither happened.

[Brandon McKinnis]

it'd be a crime to exclude Hank and Janet from the movies. they should at least make an appearance as S.H.I.E.L.D researchers. but i've thought this over a lot. and i think they have an uphill battle in making someone like Pym stand apart (personality-wise) from Banner. try to imagine it. Pym can't be cocky because of Stark. and he can't be humble because of Banner. both Banner and Stark could be considered "quirky." they do the rambling science talk quite well. so how does Pym fit into all of that? Jan can't really be the heart of the team with scarjo around. she could be less serious to balance out Widow's ultra-professionalism. but this will all be very tough. Whedon's creative. i hope he can make it work; if he uses the two.


otherwise, i'd love to see Carol Danvers. oh and Zemo!

For Pym they may need to go with the inferiority complex/Ultimates version which probably won't make Ant-Man/Pym fans too happy. Honestly, going with Scott Lang or Eric O'Grady might be the better option.

[Aaric Rivad]

A bigger appearance from Thanos. BUT not him as the bad guy. Just continue to show his presence as the "big bad". But save him for the third. Treat him like the Emperor from Star Wars.

I'd like to see Hank Pym and the Ultron story line for the second movie.

This.

I don't want to see a bunch of unnecessary crap in the movie, either. A couple of new characters here and there, but I want to see the big guns. They're the ones who made the team what it is... I want to see more of them.

[BrotherUnitNo_4]

So, my first choice is definitely Ultron for reasons stated elsewhere. Having the Avengers fight yet another invading force is going to put a lot of viewers off I think. It's been done and done well. They need to explore something else. Ultron is basically a threat from within, a highly advanced AI that went rogue. I'd do it like the EMH cartoon where Tony built the robot and Hank Pym created the AI based on his brain patterns. Of course, if we're using the Wright Pym from the upcoming Ant-Man, Pym may be too old by this point to be a superhero. Then again, it does give us a way to give him a heroic send-off by making his final sacrifice be to take Ultron out.

My second option would be a twist on the Masters/Liberators storyline. You can't do a pure Liberators story because you'd have to have the Avengers getting involved in foreign conflicts on a regular basis. That said, IM2 already established that their is a super soldier arms race and that there are in fact minds brilliant enough to make it work. Tony thought he was completely unique in his ability to produce an Iron Man armor but Vanko proved him wrong. Either make the Leader or Zemo the brains behind it and go to town.

[NamorsTrident]

There are several things I would like to see in the next film. But there is only one thing that better see .......




Cap showing how brave and Bad A#$ he really is!

[Goggindowner]

New Characters: Hank and Janet Pym, but also Falcon and Black Panther. Ms Marvel would be cool, too.

Wolverine, Spider-Man, Quicksilver, and Scarlet Witch just aren't in the cards. Sony owns the movie rights to Spidey, and Fox owns the movie rights to anything that involves a Marvel mutant, so asking for it or speculating about it is pretty pointless.

Bad Guy: Well, it can only be Thanos if he is developed as the bad guy in Iron Man 3 and Thor 2 and Captain America 2. Actually, I would rather see something a little less crazy, like maybe have Red Skull return in Cap 2 and reform Hydra, and the Avengers have to counter act that in some way. Or maybe take another play out of the Ultimate play book, and use the Grand Theft America story line, in which The Liberators nearly succeed in hijacking the US. OR, and Bendis fans will love this piece of speculation, maybe The Hood is given the Infinity Gauntlet by Thanos, and he just starts wrecking shop with it, as recently seen in Avengers the comic.

Really, it all depends on what develops in the next round of movies. I am not going to build any of my speculation off of movies that haven't been announced, so as of right now, I would assume Avengers 2 comes after the previously announced IM3 and Thor 2, which are both coming out in 2013 according to IMDB. And thanks to the success of Avengers, we will get to see Cap 2 and Avengers 2, also. Thanos has a long way to go to being a villain for a movie, since he hasn't been developed at all for movie audiences. It would also get pretty redundant if the next Avengers movie was a space/inter-dimensional invasion story. I expect to see it go in a totally different direction.

I also wonder, what would movie-verse MODOK look like?

[NamorsTrident]

Actually, Fregie said that Wanda and her brother falls in the "in betweens" of their contract. Both Fox and Marvel Studios can use them.

[Frank]

Didn't Whedon say the 2nd would be more down to earth? I don't think down to earth would be the Avengers fighting the most powerful Marvel villain, I think we should get Ultron(Were getting Ant-Man before Avengers 2) and have the Pyms and BP join the team.

Yea personaly I wouldn't want to have Thanos right away as I don't want another alien invasion. They could concentrate on Pym and Ultron and at the same time you bring in Giant Man and Wasp. And possibly Vision and Wonderman.

Or in the third movie, since Iron Man 3 would have come out and the Mandarin, you could have Masters of Evil with Red Skull, Loki, Ultron and Mandarin teaming up and THEN you bring in Vision and Wonderman.

[pariah-1972]

I personally want Ultron in the next movie but that would mean either having Hank Pym in some sort of role or completely retconning Ultron's origin i'm fine with either.
but i really want Hank in the Avengers at least in some kind of doctor/science lab type role.

[pariah-1972]

For Pym they may need to go with the inferiority complex/Ultimates version which probably won't make Ant-Man/Pym fans too happy. Honestly, going with Scott Lang or Eric O'Grady might be the better option.

Umm Hank has had a inferiority complex since at the very least the 70's.

[Brandon McKinnis]

Umm Hank has had a inferiority complex since at the very least the 70's.

Right. And from what I gather a lot of people hate that.

[Lord Bravery]

Well they shouldn't because that's what makes the character interesting. He's constantly trying to redeem himself and better himself, even if the things he's trying to redeem weren't his fault in the first place.

[Brandon McKinnis]

Well they shouldn't because that's what makes the character interesting. He's constantly trying to redeem himself and better himself, even if the things he's trying to redeem weren't his fault in the first place.

I think the inferiority complex is the natural route if Stark and Banner are going to be present. Pym could create Ultron as an attempt to impress the big brains which eventually goes haywire. Then he could turn to the Ant-Man suit (perhaps Fury told him was a joke and to stop working on it) and use that to save the rest of the team and redeem himself.

[pariah-1972]

Right. And from what I gather a lot of people hate that.

Umm that's exactly what made me a fan of him in the first place.

it makes him completely relatable especially to people like me who have low self esteem and never really feel like they fit in anywhere even if they do.

it also makes complete sense with his original Ant-man powers where not all that useful when confronting Avengers type foes.

And it also explains why he can't stick with one costumed identity or power.

[pariah-1972]

Well they shouldn't because that's what makes the character interesting. He's constantly trying to redeem himself and better himself, even if the things he's trying to redeem weren't his fault in the first place.

This ^to infinity and beyond.