Avengers Thor vs Movie Green Lantern

[Whirlwind Dinamo]

Where in Avengers or Thor does Thor show heightened speed? Both Hal and Thor have the same amount of reaction speed.

Sif and the 3 exit stage left from the battle on the frost planet, Fandral badly injured, they run and they run and they run. Thor stays and swung his hammer as fast as a helicopter blade knocking ground of the frost giant planet into rubble and knocking the rubble at the Frostgiants like a shotgun blast,
eventually Thor takes most of them out by dropping a huge hammer bolt causing a huge quake to shockwave across the land
then as Sif and the warriors 3 run and run are about to get eaten by a big monster
Thor bullets himself through the monsters head

Thor bouncing multiple Chitauri shots out of the air and back into the attacking aliens LukeSkywalker style

The Destroyer has arrived on Earth, kills a mortal Thor, wrecks the town and throws around the warriors 3 like dolls then its hammer time and Thor, the Thunder God bounces the first visor blast back into the Destroyer, dodges the next visor attack flying up into the sky, lifts Destroyer with a hurricane while bouncing all his attacks back at him, then finishes by feeding the Destroyers visor energy back into its face and totally wrecks the armor

[dbcb314]

Sif and the 3 exit stage left from the battle on the frost planet, Fandral badly injured, they run and they run and they run. Thor stays and swung his hammer as fast as a helicopter blade knocking ground of the frost giant planet into rubble and knocking the rubble at the Frostgiants like a shotgun blast,
eventually Thor takes most of them out by dropping a huge hammer bolt causing a huge quake to shockwave across the land
then as Sif and the warriors 3 run and run are about to get eaten by a big monster
Thor bullets himself through the monsters head

Thor bouncing multiple Chitauri shots out of the air and back into the attacking aliens LukeSkywalker style

The Destroyer has arrived on Earth, kills a mortal Thor, wrecks the town and throws around the warriors 3 like dolls then its hammer time and Thor, the Thunder God bounces the first visor blast back into the Destroyer, dodges the next visor attack flying up into the sky, lifts Destroyer with a hurricane while bouncing all his attacks back at him, then finishes by feeding the Destroyers visor energy back into its face and totally wrecks the armor

+ Thor flying fast enough to catch the Quinjet in TA.

[big_adventure]

Where in Avengers or Thor does Thor show heightened speed? Both Hal and Thor have the same amount of reaction speed.

That's not remotely true. Thor bats away (not statically blocks) numerous "fast" attacks. He also dodges the wing of the plane the Hulk throws at him when it's just a meter or so from his head. Thor is at least CBPH (I would say slightly higher) whereas Hal never shows anything above baseline human.

[WaveHeater]

Thor wins early with superior reaction time or late with his superior durability stamina.

[big_adventure]

Another really important thing on Hal's durability - he manages to resist the gravitational well of the sun, with help. But the heat he was getting from the sun at that range was about equivalent to a human sticking a hand a couple of feet from an oven broiler. It'll burn over time, but it's not flash-fry by any means.

Heat transfers by 3 methods - radiant transfer, conductive transfer and convective transfer. Conductive transfer (touching a stove burner) is massive, obviously, but he never touches the heat source, so it doesn't apply. Convective transfer is hot air (or whatever) circulating and carrying heat from the source to the target. The is the air circulating in an oven. It's much less impressive than conductive transfer and it is negligible in the near-vacuum of space. By far the weakest heat transfer is radiant transfer. This is heat that just flows off of the source as radiation, absorbed by the target (IR, visible, etc.). This is omnidirectional energy totally at the mercy of the inverse square rule. The center of the sun is 100 million K. The surface is only 6000K. At Hal's range from the sun, it's only the equivalent of, as stated, having an oven broiler a foot or more away. Shielding that isn't all that impressive: that's got nothing to do with the energy put out by the Cosmic-Lightning-Of-Doom that Thor tosses about.

Even the GL "force bolt" attacks used by the corps move slowly enough to be easily eye-tracked, so Thor can deflect them trivially. And that's if he even bothers, since they won't hurt him in any case.

So, Movie Hal's not-too-impressive shield has to be able to take the at-the-bell hammer-to-the-head, something I'm not at all sure would be possible, and even if he does, he's going to keep getting pounded by physical and energy attacks while not managing to damage his opponent in the slightest. And he has a time limit, since his ring will fully discharge eventually.

After further review, Thor wins in a laugher. It might (though I doubt it) be a LOOOOOOOONG laugher, but in the end, Thor isn't really threatened here.

[Cleric of Hell's Brigade]

Hal could just create a pair of giant pinchers and space toss Thor or something.

As movie Thor never hung out in outerspace, that might be enough.

[Whirlwind Dinamo]

As movie Thor never hung out in outerspace, that might be enough.

Loki traveled between dimensions a few times in the movie and was hanging around in outer space though. He's on a crumbling asteroid in space and chats to that chitauri/annihilus dude, the godfather of the aliens. It's one of the scenes where Loki trying to get his invading alien army, Thor's brother didn't seem to have any problems breathing in space. I know they are not the same people but if it didn't bother Loki then the Thundergod should be ok
I don't think outer space would bother Thor so much
Hal has great top speed and might try a BFR, still not sure if movie Lanterns can make wormholes? Hal might have imagination, the better top speed but Thor is stronger (he went hand to hand wiith Hulk), Thor is more durable and quicker on the draw. anyways seeing as how Thor's speedy movements and reaction times feats are so much higher than Hal's I don't see him landing the giant lantern pinchers before Thor just bullets at him or chucks the hammer to his head

[big_adventure]

Hal could just create a pair of giant pinchers and space toss Thor or something.

As movie Thor never hung out in outerspace, that might be enough.

How, when he no longer has a head?

[KJ Stewart]

Hal could just create a pair of giant pinchers and space toss Thor or something.

As movie Thor never hung out in outerspace, that might be enough.

Asgardians travel across space quite a bit though, seemingly. And Loki certainly survived space.

Plus, I don't think Hal's constructs showed that kind of power.

[Slade]

Hal can just open a portal to Oa and shove Thor through it.

[Slade]

Sif and the 3 exit stage left from the battle on the frost planet, Fandral badly injured, they run and they run and they run. Thor stays and swung his hammer as fast as a helicopter blade knocking ground of the frost giant planet into rubble and knocking the rubble at the Frostgiants like a shotgun blast,
eventually Thor takes most of them out by dropping a huge hammer bolt causing a huge quake to shockwave across the land
then as Sif and the warriors 3 run and run are about to get eaten by a big monster
Thor bullets himself through the monsters head

Thor bouncing multiple Chitauri shots out of the air and back into the attacking aliens LukeSkywalker style

The Destroyer has arrived on Earth, kills a mortal Thor, wrecks the town and throws around the warriors 3 like dolls then its hammer time and Thor, the Thunder God bounces the first visor blast back into the Destroyer, dodges the next visor attack flying up into the sky, lifts Destroyer with a hurricane while bouncing all his attacks back at him, then finishes by feeding the Destroyers visor energy back into its face and totally wrecks the armor

I just watched the entire movie and none of that is above a really fast human. Not even close to CBPH.

[Lord Bravery]

I just watched the entire movie and none of that is above a really fast human. Not even close to CBPH.

He's deflecting laser blasts in Avengers like they are nothing. And he was avoiding the Destroyers blasts in Thor.

And what is this about Hal opening wormholes? He never consciously did that, the ring did it when he first went to Oa.

[big_adventure]

I just watched the entire movie and none of that is above a really fast human. Not even close to CBPH.

Evidently you saw a different movie than I did. The hammerswing-deflections alone are arguably well above CBPH - especially given the range he had to react and hit the incoming blast with a swing.

We'll need the blu-ray to be able to see just how fast those blasts travelled (by estimating the distance and counting the frames to cross it). Here's the thing - it's an incredibly hard thing to hit a ball thrown at only 146 feet per second (a baseball at 100mph) when you are 60 feet away, when you have a light stick in your hand and when you know roughly where the ball is aimed. The athletes with the very best hand-eye coordination in the world don't manage it more than 40% of the time, when they have the exact range and the exact timing of the delivery, when they are not being threatened and they only have that one thing to defend. Thor was casually swatting back blasts from closer range in mid-combat, blasts that definitely moved faster than that (not saying that they were lightspeed - they were not - just that they were faster than baseballs), without any "wind up" or other way to time the shot (Destroyer blasts not included - he had the glowing head thing going on) and when he actually tried to do it, he never once missed the deflection. With a SWING, not by holding the hammer in the path. That's not the same thing as dodging the shot, it's MUCH harder. Don't believe me? Try this: have someone stand 30 feet from you and throw a ball at you as hard as they can. You ought to be able to dodge it, at least most of the time. Now try taking a bat and hitting that same ball with a swing - and NOT when the are throwing it into a nice defined box in front of you, but rather when they are aiming it at you.

Doing what Thor did is not "fast human". It is outside the capability of, for example, Batman or Cap, pretty much the textbook CBPH guys. I mean, unless you have feats of Batman swinging a hammer to deflect fast energy blasts at close range. Movie Thor did it from no more than 15 feet away to Loki, and from perhaps 20-25 (and more) against the Chitauri.

[QuickDevilRed]

also I know feats don't transfer, but I don't think anyone would disagree if I saw Thor is faster than Loki.
and loki easily catches an arrow in mid air right infront of his face. Now he didn't notice it was explosive and got planted on the ground, but he still used cbph reflexes for that.

[Whirlwind Dinamo]

He's deflecting laser blasts in Avengers like they are nothing. And he was avoiding the Destroyers blasts in Thor.

And what is this about Hal opening wormholes? He never consciously did that, the ring did it when he first went to Oa.

Yeah I'm not sure Hal has an ability to make portals/wormholes, anyways Thor should soak any attack since the invading Chitauri aliens, Ironman, etc did fights not actually damaging Thor down in the least.