Movie Avengers v. Movie Brotherhood Of Evil Mutants

[Holacik]

Without getting involved. Magnetic fields are all around us. We can't see them, but we can see their effects. Just like the wind.

Just apply that to Magneto's use of magnetic fields in the movie. You don't need to see them, you can see their effects.

Pfft, Logic doesn't apply to this thread.

[big_adventure]

Honestly, the better feat to use is the fact he tore down the glass prison without having to constantly move the balls, however they were really small, and I don't think he has a feet of controlling something as large as Ironman's suit without making a hand gesture.

Well, he still raised his hand, and the whole process took a while to get everything going. In any case, it doesn't change the fact that Stark will kill him really dead well before he manages to do anything to Stark's armor.

[Will M]

Pfft, Logic doesn't apply to this thread.

We can't see the logic, but we can see the effects of not using it :)

[Holacik]

Well, he still raised his hand, and the whole process took a while to get everything going. In any case, it doesn't change the fact that Stark will kill him really dead well before he manages to do anything to Stark's armor.

That was to get it out, when he was tearing down the prison he was just Pimpwalking to the door.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbTyTyizz1s

[Fast]

I specifically brought up the Cops shooting him as not a BT feat since every bullet slowed and stopped to around the same point like hitting a wall signifying that there was an invisible field stopping them not Magneto plucking every one out of the air individually after they had been fired.

[Deadman25]

No, not really. We can look at other feats and determine what he is and isn't capable of. So if we've never seen Magneto move a metal pipe, we don't say he can't because we can look at other feats to determine he's more then strong enough to manipulate a small pipe.

Stopping a bullet is simply creating a magnetic field in front of you and maintaining it. We have flat out seen him do this numerous times. When he escapes prison in X2 and he's standing on a metal plate and flying with it? Yeah, that's Magneto maintaining a magnetic field. In X3 when he finishes moving the golden gate bridge and drops it to the ground, he stays levitating in the air. Again, that is him manipulating and maintaining a magnetic field around his body(I'm assuming he had some metal on him somewhere and was using that to hover in the air)

You then need to explain why he is capable of creating and maintaining a magnetic field under him(to fly), yet for some reason he couldn't do the same thing, but in front of him.

Every feat I bring up is invalid on yalls part so what's the point ? Its just excuses not to axccept someones abilities.

[Holacik]

Every feat I bring up is invalid on yalls part so what's the point ? Its just excuses not to axccept someones abilities.

It's not that they are invalid, they are just not as good as you think they are.

[Deadman25]

Honestly, the better feat to use is the fact he tore down the glass prison without having to constantly move the balls, however they were really small, and I don't think he has a feet of controlling something as large as Ironman's suit without making a hand gesture.

He could still have control just by sensing. And stop any type of functions. The second he raises his hand and closes it RIP Stark

[Deadman25]

It's not that they are invalid, they are just not as good as you think they are.

Those r the only feats the man has. Even though they aren't as entertaining as starks we still have to accept what happens on the big screen.

[Fast]

Those r the only feats the man has. Even though they aren't as entertaining as starks we still have to accept what happens on the big screen.

We must accept feats after we properly interprate them first.

[Surtur]

Every feat I bring up is invalid on yalls part so what's the point ? Its just excuses not to axccept someones abilities.

So you just kind of ignored that it is perfectly valid that Magneto is indeed able to create a magnetic field to stop bullets in front of him. If you have any legitimate argument as to why he can't then now is the time to say it. Since I am accepting his abilities, I accept the fact that he can throw up a magnetic field in front of him that stops bullets.

[Deadman25]

So you just kind of ignored that it is perfectly valid that Magneto is indeed able to create a magnetic field to stop bullets in front of him. If you have any legitimate argument as to why he can't then now is the time to say it. Since I am accepting his abilities, I accept the fact that he can throw up a magnetic field in front of him that stops bullets.

If he can create a magnetic field then what's to stop him from throwing it infront of him for protection ? Or throwing it at stark ?

[Deadman25]

We must accept feats after we properly interprate them first.

The reason mine are not accepted is uncalled for especially after I've accepted everyone elses.

[Will M]

If he can create a magnetic field then what's to stop him from throwing it infront of him for protectiono ? Or throwing it at stark ?

Because it won't stop an energy beam from the chest plate.

[Fast]

The reason mine are not accepted is uncalled for especially after I've accepted everyone elses.

Its not uncalled for, it is just debating. Have you ever participated in Mock Trial or a debate club or something? There are facts that everyone can agree to but people can draw different correlations and truths from that. The fact for that feat is Magneto fires bullet and stops it before Cop is killed. Your interpretation is Magneto is so quick he can pluck bullets out of the air. Others (including me) interpret this as he already had an invisible mitt there to catch the bullet similar to having an invisible mitt already there. Accepting feats is of course necesarry for this board to work however the feat is only the actual facts of a particular instance, the raw materials that rumblers than use to turn into something that can be debated with by factoring in context, circumstances, case (or feat) history. Do you understand?

If he can create a magnetic field then what's to stop him from throwing it infront of him for protectiono ? Or throwing it at stark ?

The speed issue is again raised. The whole thing with the bullets was originally necessary for your argument that Maneto could outdraw Tony, this has been debunked in most people's minds which means Tony will be able to blast Erik before he can react.