Movie Avengers v. Movie Brotherhood Of Evil Mutants

[KurtW95]

Movie Magneto (McKellan) is not near as powerful as his 616 counterpart. So I'd give this to the Avengers.

[Beadle]

For the record though, given that Thor was crushing the Iron Man suit with his bare hands, let alone with Mjolnir, Iron Man being a weapon for Magneto doesn't mean a huge amount as far as he's concerned.

Cap's shield, however..... maybe then we have a different situation.

[KJ Stewart]

KJ? Seriously? No metal objects in a match against Iron Man and Cap?

I mean, I respect your ire and everything buddy, but I'd say that's a little disingenuous.

(I agree there's no random metal objects lying around though).

I'm aware Iron Man is there but, you know, "find a metal object" didn't indicate "use Iron Man". It indicated "finding a random metal object".

And, in all honesty, if he concentrates on trying to use Iron Man to take out 2 characters who are no threat to him at all, all that does is allow Thor to beat every single person on the opposing team with his first move - a lightning blast.

[Deadman25]

Magneto was capable of Moving the Golden Gate bridge. Its kind of a toss up there if He can control Thor or not with a metal object. Magneto has cap's shield and the Iron man suit to use against everyone. But just one move from Thor and its over mags.

[KJ Stewart]

Cap's shield, however..... maybe then we have a different situation.

He couldn't crush adamantium though, could he? I know he could lift Wolverine, but could he actually manipulate it on a molecular level?

I'm not sure that was ever discussed or looked in to. Maybe I'm wrong/misremembering and it's outright clear whether he can or not.

If not, he probably couldn't do that to vibranium either. Though he could still throw it around. Not sure that would hurt Thor though.

[Deadman25]

He couldn't crush adamantium though, could he? I know he could lift Wolverine, but could he actually manipulate it on a molecular level?

I'm not sure that was ever discussed or looked in to. Maybe I'm wrong/misremembering and it's outright clear whether he can or not.

If not, he probably couldn't do that to vibranium either. Though he could still throw it around. Not sure that would hurt Thor though.

He never crushed Logans adamantium but he was capable of moving it in his body. He spread his claws out wider in the movie.

[Beadle]

Though he could still throw it around.

That's what I was going for.

Not sure that would hurt Thor though.

Well, maybe.... maybe not. Given that the toughness of Cap's shield when hit by Mjolnir nearly KTFO all three of them, it's possible.

But it really depends on how hard/fast Mags could throw it. And that's the clincher. But in the meantime, Mjolnir's heading for Mags' head, and his movie shields don't have the same "No-sell Mjolnir" aura that the comics version does.

At worst, we're looking at a double KO, and then Iron Man beats the crap out of most of the Brotherhood. Juggs' durability is a question in this case though. Can he no-sell Tony, given that Thor doesn't?

[KJ Stewart]

He never crushed Logans adamantium but he was capable of moving it in his body. He spread his claws out wider in the movie.

I don't think that constitutes molecularly manipulating it. It didn't change its composition or anything, essentially it just moved his coated bones from side to side.

[KJ Stewart]

That's what I was going for.

Ah. I thought you were talking about using it to pin people against the wall by reshaping it in such a way that made it long enough to do so.

[Deadman25]

I don't think that constitutes molecularly manipulating it. It didn't change its composition or anything, essentially it just moved his coated bones from side to side.

He manipulated the iron in the Gaurds body and turned it into his own personal hover board.

[KJ Stewart]

He manipulated the iron in the Gaurds body and turned it into his own personal hover board.

I know, but that's not adamantium or vibranium.

[Arachnid]

Magneto was capable of Moving the Golden Gate bridge. Its kind of a toss up there if He can control Thor or not with a metal object. Magneto has cap's shield and the Iron man suit to use against everyone. But just one move from Thor and its over mags.

I remembering him doing that thing with the claws, and he also stated that he was one of the the only people that could manipulate adamantium. He named Stryker as the other, but that was before he knew that Stryker did it by keeping it in it's molten state. I know that saying something isn't the same as the feat itself though. That thing with the claws is harder than manipulating vibranium I'd imagine. If he could encase Thor in vibranium, maybe Thor would be immobilized, but I'm not sure how likely that is,

[Deadman25]

I know, but that's not adamantium or vibranium.

if he isnt powerful enough to manipulate it, he can sure as hell still control it. shove it back at Caps face and send iron man slamming against the rest of the team.

[Beadle]

Seriously, his first target is NOT going to be Cap. If he doesn't take Thor down, he's going down himself. Thor and Iron Man are by far the bigger threats here.

If he can simultaneously throw Cap's shield edge-first at Thor's jugular and crush Iron Man, then he's probably going to win.

But starting off by smacking Cap in the face is a guaranteed lose strategy.

[KJ Stewart]

if he isnt powerful enough to manipulate it, he can sure as hell still control it. shove it back at Caps face and send iron man slamming against the rest of the team.

I'm sure. I'm just not so sure he can use that method to defeat the whole team before Thor calls down one blast of lightning that does indeed kill the entire mutant team.