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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadstar View Post
    Why, oh why, does it seem necessary to carry the "Hank is a wife-beater" meme from the comics to the movies?

    I can't think of anything more gratuitous and expendable.
    I would rather not go that route either...I was just spitballing an idea off the top of my head when I suggested it was a way someone COULD go with a story. Prior to that, I mentioned that I thought it'd be really cool to just see Hank pop up in sevearl of the movies as an Agent Coulson type...kind of a "glue" character to hold the universe together. I'd much rather see that.

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    I think Hank losing his temper, maybe not actually hitting Jan, could be a good way to have a redemption arc for him. I don't think you can have him hit her because in the general audiences eyes that might be too far. But yea, despite how that whole thing has been turned into a stupid meme, it was a good character moment for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Bravery View Post
    I think Hank losing his temper, maybe not actually hitting Jan, could be a good way to have a redemption arc for him. I don't think you can have him hit her because in the general audiences eyes that might be too far. But yea, despite how that whole thing has been turned into a stupid meme, it was a good character moment for him.
    I agree...but it might be too much to fit in a movie. But do agree that in the comics, when I was growing up reading all the AVengers stuff (I'm a pretty huge Avengers buff), some of my favorite stuff was kind of the fall and redemption of Pym...he definitely hit rock bottom, but it made him easy to root for on his road back.

    Ideally though, I think the way to go would be to make them minor characters if you include them...unless you drop a character or two currently on the movie Avengers roster...just too many people to focus on in one movie, in my opinion....If their roles were something along the screentime that Fury, Hill, or Coulson got, that would probably work...but not as one of the main heroes.

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    Personally I think the quickest way to ruin the Avengers would be to add a bunch of new members. I want to see these characters that I have been following in their own movies come together again. Why ruin the great dynamic of the group? If they did have to add someone hopefully its just one character. Black Panther would be best choice

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    i see an obvious opening. who builds S.H.I.E.L.D's spy tools? they have a lot of fancy toys (good way to introduce LMDs). maybe Pym's the one who builds those.

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    How about the Avengers go seperate from SHIELD? That way you wouldn't have to include Widow and Hawkeye, don't get me wrong i loved them, but keep them as SHIELD.

    Have the Avengers operate out of the newly christened Avengers Tower (nice hint at the ending with the A being the only remaining letter) and Hank and Jan work there in the R and D levels?

    So you've effectively replaced Widow and Hawkeye with the Pyms, but they are still major characters of the universe.

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    I'm of the mindset that not every member of this team is going to stick around. Sure, it would be nice if they did. But these movies take a long time to make and contracts run out and actors get involved in other projects. So, rather than recasting these characters, they can introduce brand new ones. After all, the Avengers are famous for their ever-changing roster. Is there anyone specifically I'd like to lose? Well, I have to say, I've never been a Black Widow fan. And Hulk is still an odd choice for the group, even though he's fun to have him around.

    Anyway, if I were to choose any members that were to be on the top of my list, it would be:

    Ant-Man
    Wasp
    Scarlet Witch
    Quicksilver
    Wonder Man
    Vision

    Other fun characters that I wouldn't object to:

    Hercules
    She-Hulk
    Black Knight
    Sub-Mariner
    Tigra
    Falcon
    Spider-Woman II
    Ms. Marvel

    And I'm going to echo what someone else said about the Maximoffs' relationship to Magneto being not all that necessary. Then again, I've seen enough characters with "daddy issues" among the superhero set. I'd rather play up Wanda's magical connection to the elder god Chthon or their mutual connection to Mount Wundagore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamYJ View Post
    I'm of the mindset that not every member of this team is going to stick around. Sure, it would be nice if they did. But these movies take a long time to make and contracts run out and actors get involved in other projects. So, rather than recasting these characters, they can introduce brand new ones. After all, the Avengers are famous for their ever-changing roster.
    I think this pretty much sums it up. I reckon everyone will be back for the second but beyond that, Im not too sure. I mean, how many more times is RDJ going to do Iron Man? 2-3? When he calls it a day, drop im from the team and bring in someone else.
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    Hank Pym and Janet. That said, about the whole wife beating thing. I'm not entirely familiar with Avenger storylines, but wasn't Hank's personality warped or something when the whole ordeal went down? How the hell has that become treated as literally domestic abuse?
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    Spiderman has to be in it. Yes, Sony owns the rights, yes I know that. But Walt Disney could buy the rights and have Marvel Studios own the rights while Sony distributes it. Like Iron Man, Paramount used to own the rights, but Walt Disney bought it back, now Marvel Studio owns Iron Man movie rights while Paramount distributes. Although Avengers was distributed by Walt Disney, Paramount's logo was shown.

    Anyways, Spider-Man has to be in the Avengers 2 because he's so well known. Adding someone who's not well known will be bad.

    As for Antman, that's so cheesy. He's too cheesy. Sorry. He doesn't fit in the movie.

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    Will they add a a DC charter in the next movie? or they will stick on the original characters from the comics and cartoons?

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    Quote Originally Posted by melisagaston View Post
    Will they add a a DC charter in the next movie? or they will stick on the original characters from the comics and cartoons?
    It's highly unlikely they'll add a DC Character. Although a DC vs Marvel movie would be epic, but it's highly unlikely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamYJ View Post
    I'm of the mindset that not every member of this team is going to stick around. Sure, it would be nice if they did. But these movies take a long time to make and contracts run out and actors get involved in other projects. So, rather than recasting these characters, they can introduce brand new ones. After all, the Avengers are famous for their ever-changing roster. Is there anyone specifically I'd like to lose? Well, I have to say, I've never been a Black Widow fan. And Hulk is still an odd choice for the group, even though he's fun to have him around.

    Anyway, if I were to choose any members that were to be on the top of my list, it would be:

    Ant-Man
    Wasp
    Scarlet Witch
    Quicksilver
    Wonder Man
    Vision

    Other fun characters that I wouldn't object to:

    Hercules
    She-Hulk
    Black Knight
    Sub-Mariner
    Tigra
    Falcon
    Spider-Woman II
    Ms. Marvel

    And I'm going to echo what someone else said about the Maximoffs' relationship to Magneto being not all that necessary. Then again, I've seen enough characters with "daddy issues" among the superhero set. I'd rather play up Wanda's magical connection to the elder god Chthon or their mutual connection to Mount Wundagore.
    I was actually thinking this too. The Avengers has always had a changing roster. I think that moving new characters in to replace departing characters would be an awesome idea to keep the movies fresh. As some one mentioned, an easy place to cut would be Hawkeye and Black Widow. A rampaging hulk would make for an awesome departure story for the hulk.
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    Especially given the profiles of all these actors, a rotating cast is ideal, longterm. Sure, they'll all be back for the immediate sequel, but eventually, conflicts are going to arise.

    As far as new additions short term, the cast is already pretty large, so you don't want to repeat archetypes/powersets, and you ideally want to introduce them in other movies first, like most of this cast was introduced elsewhere.

    Recently, Feige listed four possibilities (RUNAWAYS, DR. STRANGE, INHUMANS, and GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY) and said two of those four were closer to realization than most people knew, and an announcement would be made this summer, most likely SDCC. Thanos was revealed at the end of Avengers as the Big Bad, but that doesn't mean he'll be the villain in Avengers 2. Marvel's already shown a fondness for playing the long game, so we might just see more behind the scenes meddling from him in Avengers 2, with him only taking center stage in Avengers 3. With that in mind, they could easily fit a GUARDIANS movie in there before Avengers 3 and explore Thanos more indepth there, so he's even more ominous in A3. A GUARDIANS movie would also be a great place to introduce a version of Captain Marvel.

    An INHUMANS movie makes Crystal a very real possibility for an eventual Avenger down the line, maybe by Avengers 3. They've expressed a desire for more female Avengers, her powers are very visual and easily explained/understood, and with the way Thor's origin is played in the movieverse, she'd make an interesting foil for him.

    Dr. Strange would be an excellent addition as well, since Thor's generally understood by the others to be space alien, he'd be the first exposure to the mystical, and make for a great foil for Tony.

    Vision's got a lot of possibilities as well. I could see them going the route of Tony being the one to create movie Vision, most likely off of Agent Coulson's brain patterns, the way Pym used Wonder Man in the comics.

    By that token, I can't see them introducing Hank any time soon, unless the long rumored Ant Man movie finally happens and does really well (but even that was rumored to star Scott Lang instead of Pym, right?). Bottom line is....Ruffalo's Banner and Downey's Stark are hugely popular and not going anywhere soon....and with them hogging the super scientist roles, adding a third one just seems overkill when you already have a crowded cast. Similarly, I don't see them adding She-Hulk to the cast until Ruffalo moves on, because it just doesn't make a lot of sense to have two Hulks fighting for screen time in a fully staffed ensemble.

    I think eventually they'll cave and add Wanda to the cast, but it won't be by the next movie or even the third. She IS heavily tied to Magneto in so many peoples' minds that it'll likely seem a risk to use her without even being allowed to reference him....so I think they'll put it off as long as possible, before they finally admit, screw it, we need Wanda in the mix.
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