Top 100 comics for April & Sales Estimates....

[USERNAME TAKEN]

These sales figures have also made me think about DCs "aggressiveness" since the launch of the Nu52. DC have really been giving Marvel a run for money lately (especially in the closing months of the last year when they dominated) but i still feel there is room for improvement. The lesser selling DC titles have virtually fallen off a cliff (while Marvel's have largely remained steady even though they might not have titles in the top 10) even some top sellers (like Superman) are still finding their level.

I think the Nu52 and BW (with its insane sales incentives attached) show that Warner are pumping effort and investment into DC, and the musical chairs with Harras, Chase, Lobdell is more evidence of that. It seems there is very real pressure on DC from the higher ups at WB to make good on their investment.

All in all, i think its good for the industry that there is so much competition, it can only bring out the best in everyone.

I also think people should look at Image, big, big things are going on there.

[Sabrewulf]

My thoughts exactly.

Either way, it's good to see the X- titles and the Avengers in the top 10 again.

It also seems that Marvel have experienced an upturn in sales on a number of titles, I guess big events do that.

The upturn is due to the Avanegers Appreciation variants. But what works, works. But I imagine it will come with a bigger drop for them next month.

I wasn't sure about Walking Dead, with the TV show being on and ending it might have affected sales.

[Sabrewulf]

These sales figures have also made me think about DCs "aggressiveness" since the launch of the Nu52. DC have really been giving Marvel a run for money lately (especially in the closing months of the last year when they dominated) but i still feel there is room for improvement. The lesser selling DC titles have virtually fallen off a cliff (while Marvel's have largely remained steady even though they might not have titles in the top 10) even some top sellers (like Superman) are still finding their level.

I think the Nu52 and BW (with its insane sales incentives attached) show that Warner are pumping effort and investment into DC, and the musical chairs with Harras, Chase, Lobdell is more evidence of that. It seems there is very real pressure on DC from the higher ups at WB to make good on their investment.



All in all, i think its good for the industry that there is so much competition, it can only bring out the best in everyone.

I also think people should look at Image, big, big things are going on there.

I think DC suffered from people dropping off after the first arc. I think this #0 month will revitalise a few. A good marketing idea really. A lot of the top and middle tier books are holding steady and solid now though unlike Marvel titles which tend to drop and get boosts from mini events of some kind. Although their lower tier books seem to be leveling out just above the cancellation mark whereas DC's just drop into obscurity.

I imagine there will be a culling of those titles that fall below All Star Western level shortly.

[Sabrewulf]

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You can't really say the first issue sold less just yet. AVX 1 is actually ahead of where Justice League was in the second month(assuming comichron's numbers are accurate). It is still being reordered according to both diamond and BC. It may not beat JL in the long run or it might. I just don't think you can claim victory just yet.

Assuming Bleeding Cool is correct, AVX 4 is selling more than 3. That is a great sign for the series.

I agreee, reorders for #1 gave it another 20k or so which is good. If all the other re-orders are as high then my predictions could be totally off. But im assuming that if every currently released tie in gets a 10% increase it doesn't change anything all that much. Maybe just means they beat Aquman for another month.

[MarvelMaster616]

Thanks for formulating these estimates. But I think that based on the market share and unit share, Marvel really is widening the gap between themselves in DC. For a while, DC did have a nice run of dominance with the New 52. It didn't last and now with AvX, Marvel is essentially running away with it again. The size of the gap may fluctuate with Before Watchmen, but I don't see that series pushing DC over the top again. I think most of these new books are fairly entrenched and as Marvel keeps pushing AvX, it'll widen the gap even further.

[CyberHubbs]

Man, even with the #1 spot Marvel is still the worst!

[Nightwing15]

Sales Estimates

http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/22842.html

[Dog]

ICv2's numbers are up.

http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/22842.html

EDIT: Beaten by 5 minutes!

[PwrdOff]

Okay, regardless of how whiny this thread is, I have to give props to the OP for getting the numbers almost spot on.

[turtlefood]

Thanks for formulating these estimates. But I think that based on the market share and unit share, Marvel really is widening the gap between themselves in DC. For a while, DC did have a nice run of dominance with the New 52. It didn't last and now with AvX, Marvel is essentially running away with it again. The size of the gap may fluctuate with Before Watchmen, but I don't see that series pushing DC over the top again. I think most of these new books are fairly entrenched and as Marvel keeps pushing AvX, it'll widen the gap even further.

It'll be close though....4 100k sellers extra per month in Before Watchmen, along with Batman Inc and Earth 2 selling well.

[SpideyCzar]

This chart just shows how top heavy the New 52 gimmick was. The popular characters are doing well but after that those lower tier characters series are shedding readers by a lot. Wonder if Marvel hater, I mean Sabrewulf takes into account all the Marvel Comics going to 2nd prints like A vs X #0,1,2, Amazing Spider-Man #682, 683, and most of the A vs X tie ins. Even A vs X #0 is going to a 3rd printing. I don't take much stock into the pre order chart, I look into the reorder charts posted by Bleeding Cool as a indication to what is actually selling and what is actually sitting on store shelves.

[One More Day]

This chart just shows how top heavy the New 52 gimmick was. The popular characters are doing well but after that those lower tier characters series are shedding readers by a lot. Wonder if Marvel hater, I mean Sabrewulf takes into account all the Marvel Comics going to 2nd prints like A vs X #0,1,2, Amazing Spider-Man #682, 683, and most of the A vs X tie ins. Even A vs X #0 is going to a 3rd printing. I don't take much stock into the pre order chart, I look into the reorder charts posted by Bleeding Cool as a indication to what is actually selling and what is actually sitting on store shelves.

You could say the same for AVX. Batman is doing well

[SpideyCzar]

You could say the same for AVX. Batman is doing well

Batman frequently is in the reorder charts, so there's no debating that. Your post make little sense. Since Batman is DC's flagship character that title along with the characters other 35 titles fits in perfectly in my comment about the popular DC characters doing well, but the lower tier characters suffering greatly.

[BrotherUnitNo_4]

Honestly, with the increases in sales, Marvel's going to keep believing that events are what people want. Avengers got a HUGE boost. Uncanny broke the top 10. Aquaman is no longer pushing every other Marvel big hitter down.

Daredevil got a nice boost, although Punisher is still down in the 30K range strangely enough considering it was part 2 of a 3-part crossover.

Also, Hulk saw a pretty nice gain, which is kind of surprising considering that it cost $3.99.

More thoughts:

JiM continues to drop down the charts, which is depressing.

And it looks like the time travel plot has definitely alienated readers for Thunderbolts. Oddly enough Marvel is still sticking to their guns with it, which is surprising.

Fearless held up exceptionally well considering that it was a 12 issue serious spinning out of a book that didn't get the most positive reception. Not only that but I think it's definitely encouraging for Marvel to see Valkyrie headline a book that held on as well as that did.

[CTpitch]

Also, Hulk saw a pretty nice gain, which is kind of surprising considering that it cost $3.99.

I'm happy with that too. nice to see a 50th get a good boost