Can we assume there will be no more Ghost Rider movies?

[Monty_Cristo]

Or he is having fun, and doesn't give a damn what the kibitzers say?

fess up. you're secretly Sofia Coppola, aren't you?

[Flyattractor]

Can we assume there will be no more Ghost Rider movies? No, I'm sure Marvel will do something with him again down the line, and me personally I would get all giddy if they did a Blade teamup/Midnight Sons movie.

Can we assume there will be no more Nicolas Cage Ghost Rider movies? We can only hope.

Oh I am sure that what ever company owns the liscene will put out another cheap POS movie again at some point just to retain the rights.

[esc0]

Haven't seen the second GR but if its even worse then GR1 then my god.......

As for Punisher, he would work if they just made a damn Vietnam war movie like Apocalypse Now and then a sequel similar in feel to American Gangster. They could even manage a cameo of the Punisher in Captain America as an old man still fighting his war.

[BrotherUnitNo_4]

Ghost Rider is one of the most convoluted characters in comics. Are there two demons that need a host or just one? Blaze and Ketch turned out to be related. So many GRs have been around that its hard to keep tractof them. Wasn't even Blaze and Ketchs mother a GR in the minus issue? Plus this new female GR, Vengeance and the ex slave in post Civil War America thrown in just makes things more confusing. Not to mention those extra spirits of vengeance that popped up in the '90s series at the end.

I think Aaron's retcon was a great way of handling that. Rather than it being demons or spirits of ancestors, all of the Spirits of Vengeance were originally weapons of heaven, which kind of makes sense if you subscribe to the belief that demons are angels cast-out of heaven. Unfortunately, as fun as it was, it didn't do well enough for Marvel not to jettison everything that Aaron built up in his run. He even left it so we could have our cake and eat it too with both Johnny and Danny as Riders AND a new Vengeance.

And I second a Ghost Rider/Midnight Sons film or even a TV series. That's better than cop-Punisher.

[Karl Cook]

I have an enormous headache in my eye.

To be honest, when Marvel announced that they'd installed Jeph Loeb as their Head of Television Development I thought it would be bad.
I didn't think it would be this bad, though.

[Karl Cook]

Well, it seems that Fox has decided to pass on The Punisher tv series...

Additionally, per THR, the pilot for a television series based on The Punisher is not moving forward. ABC Studios and Fox gave a put pilot commitment to the show, with Criminal Minds writer/producer Ed Bernero onboard, but they declined to pick the pilot up to series. So for now, it appears that The Punisher is dead.

http://collider.com/hulk-tv-show-abc-2013/166458/

[Vic Vega]

Ghost Rider is one of the most convoluted characters in comics. Are there two demons that need a host or just one? Blaze and Ketch turned out to be related. So many GRs have been around that its hard to keep tractof them. Wasn't even Blaze and Ketchs mother a GR in the minus issue? Plus this new female GR, Vengeance and the ex slave in post Civil War America thrown in just makes things more confusing. Not to mention those extra spirits of vengeance that popped up in the '90s series at the end.

The movie's decription of his origins make a hell of a lot more sense than anything done in the comics.

ESPECIALLY after all that Noble Kale stuff.

I wish somebody would have thought up the fairly straightforward "Hell's Bounty Hunter" angle in the 90's it would have saved me from reading a bunch of REALLY bad stories.

Its hard to make a serious film about a stunt rider with his head on fire.

The first flick aimed for cheezy fun(Peter Fonda was the Devil for christ sakes!!!) and hit the mark, the second one tried to be scary which was less sucessful.

Unless you do a Blade and go for the gore R-rating you got the best Ghost Rider movies possible considering what the character is.

Face it, the quality ceiling for a Ghost Rider movie is AT BEST somewhere between R rated monster flicks The Mimic and Jeepers Creepers 2.

[Captain Craig]

Well, it seems that Fox has decided to pass on The Punisher tv series...

Additionally, per THR, the pilot for a television series based on The Punisher is not moving forward. ABC Studios and Fox gave a put pilot commitment to the show, with Criminal Minds writer/producer Ed Bernero onboard, but they declined to pick the pilot up to series. So for now, it appears that The Punisher is dead.

http://collider.com/hulk-tv-show-abc-2013/166458/

Just as well. It stunk of not being Punisher enough AND just a Dexter ripoff--insert Frank in his place.

[Malevolent1]

Possibly. I was very disappointed in the last one. There was a great opportunity to push the character, and I'd say production dropped the ball on this last one. There were too many, "...what???...." moments. When he was giving the one guy the penance stare in the gravel yard, I mean...really? What was that all about?

Too many hole's in the story. I didn't look like a finished product.

I hope Marvel reacquires the rights to the character, so he can properly be re-booted. The last one sucked.

[FirestormTheNuclearMan]

No I think there will be more Ghost Rider movies.

He hasn't gotten a movie made that is Batman Begins quality but I don't think they'll stop trying just because of failure.

[FirestormTheNuclearMan]

Just as well. It stunk of not being Punisher enough AND just a Dexter ripoff--insert Frank in his place.

Considering Punisher was created more than 10 years before Dexter it's Dexter that you could call a rip off the Punisher.

[Frank]

Everytime I see what they are doing, I frustratingly say:

How. Can. You. FK. That. Up?

Ghost Rider has possibly the greatest look any charaters has ever had. I mean look at him, his image is pure awesomeness. Even in the second movie, they added the blackness Charcoal-thing to his look and he looked even more badass. Yet they vomited another crappy movie with a stupid story. What's wrong with these people?

[Jumpoff!]

Oh there will be, its my duty to make sure.

[Mentok The Mindtaker]

Everytime I see what they are doing, I frustratingly say:

How. Can. You. FK. That. Up?

Ghost Rider has possibly the greatest look any charaters has ever had. I mean look at him, his image is pure awesomeness. Even in the second movie, they added the blackness Charcoal-thing to his look and he looked even more badass. Yet they vomited another crappy movie with a stupid story. What's wrong with these people?

That's how I felt after leaving the theater after seeing the first movie. I never saw the second one.

How can you f**k up one of the most powerful beings in Marvel history so badly? What they wanted to see if they could do worse then Ang Lee????

[Kymeric]

They need to be more satannic and upsetting. Not funnier. Flashy visuals are the only real strength of GR outside of scary movie material.