Mark Waid vs. Joss Whedon - Avengers/Kingdom Come...

[Guicho]

...thoughts?

[WhitOro]

Uhm... I say that both of them lose against whoever invented these tropes, because they've been used so many times it's not even funny counting.
Seriously now.

[Predator jp]

wait, did i just see a huge spoiler?

[Jaded Devil]

wait, did i just see a huge spoiler?

Not really. If you're thinking of what I'm thinking of, the same thing occurs but with different, less "definite," end results.

[Darrell D.]

except in the movie spoilers:

they launched the nuke to stop the invasion, Manhattan being an acceptable loss to stem the tide, not to get rid of the heroes.

end of spoilers

Really, someone must have pulled a muscle for THAT reach.

[Guicho]

except in the movie spoilers:

they launched the nuke to stop the invasion, Manhattan being an acceptable loss to stem the tide, not to get rid of the heroes.

end of spoilers

Really, someone must have pulled a muscle for THAT reach.

spoilers:

The supposed "invasion" included a certain hero. It's what set off the tension did you miss that? It led to them building weapons behind the heroes back and as protection from them. The nuke would have as far as they knew(and probably hoped) eliminated all the heroes too.

end of spoilers

[Jim Thompson]

I think this would be the equivalent of Star Wars ($797,900,000 worldwide gross, 1977) vs. Star Trek, The Motion Picture ($139,000,000 worldwide gross, 1979), with The Avengers being Star Wars and Kingdom Come being Star Trek.