Since the Avengers movie is SO HUGE, imagine if Marvel...

[CHOX]

Fantastic Four is ESSENTIAL to the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Marvel's First Family has played a large part in so many stories, and it's not just that, imagine Reed, Stark, Pym, and Banner ALL consulting together on a large threat. Or, if you're more into action and humor, Thing vs. Hulk.

I'm completely fine with Fox owning X-Men. Surprisingly, they did a good job with First Class. I don't know if it's been mentioned in this thread, but the mutants work fine in their own universe. Add them into the MCU and it may seem to get a little too big.

Spider-Man on the other hand. I know this may seem a little silly, but I don't even consider that to be a legitimate Marvel film. Sure, it's Spider-Man, but since it's not made directly with Marvel, and doesn't tie in with the MCU, it's just...there. Granted, I'll still see it. But the fact that it's self contained is a little sad.

[Songbird/Diamondback]

They were already wanting to explore the cosmic and unseen sides of Marvel back in 2004 so I doubt that would change anything if they had rights.
I hope they get the rights.

I'd kill for a infinity war movie.

I still think that if they got those rights back that we'll just see those same properties over and over. I want a SHAKEUP!

[Songbird/Diamondback]

After the ending of AVENGERS, with the reveal of the REAL villain, I have to admit, no small part of me SCREAMED for Marvel to buy the rights to their characters back so that we could have AVENGERS 3: THE INFINITY GAUNTLET, Pt.1 & 2, a two part 'crossover extravaganza' starring every marvel hero ever in a battle royale to save the universe...C'mon, Disney...get on it!

NOOOOOO! The last thing we need is Marvel Movies broken up into PARTS!

[XPac]

People tend to forget how huge the first X Men movie was. At the time the only movies based on comics that were being released were the batman sequels. That X Man movie paved the way for super hero movies, the good and bad, for the next decade. Thank you fox.

Then came along Iron Man and raised the bar even higher(also the recent batman movies). The last fox released super hero movie X Men: First Class was a success. I think fox is trying to compete. With Marvel releasing such acclaimed movies, Fox has to up their game even more.

Competition is good. Avengers would have probably been sub par if fox didn't pave the way with good and awful movies.

I will give Fox credit... First Class was pretty darn cool. If they can sustain that level of quality, I'll be okay with them keeping a few franchises.

Really, I wonder if Marvel even could handle doing X-Men and Avenger films at the same time without stretching themselves too thin.

[XPac]

Please no to Civil War, but I'd love a Secret wars film

Realistically though, I don't think they could do a 12 issue mini in a 2 hour movie. They'd have to trim it down so much, it wouldn't even really be the same story.

I think that's something they could attempt to tackle in the Avengers cartoon or something... but it's probably too big (and expensive) for a movie.

[Will.S]

Fantastic Four is ESSENTIAL to the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Marvel's First Family has played a large part in so many stories, and it's not just that, imagine Reed, Stark, Pym, and Banner ALL consulting together on a large threat. Or, if you're more into action and humor, Thing vs. Hulk.

I'm completely fine with Fox owning X-Men. Surprisingly, they did a good job with First Class. I don't know if it's been mentioned in this thread, but the mutants work fine in their own universe. Add them into the MCU and it may seem to get a little too big.

Spider-Man on the other hand. I know this may seem a little silly, but I don't even consider that to be a legitimate Marvel film. Sure, it's Spider-Man, but since it's not made directly with Marvel, and doesn't tie in with the MCU, it's just...there. Granted, I'll still see it. But the fact that it's self contained is a little sad.

FOX's success with First Class seemed mostly like it was a happy accident, they never really seemed to have a lot of faith in the movie given the lack of merchandising for it and how oddly they treated Matthew Vaughn.

As for Marvel owning all the other properties, that would of course be the ideal situation but I just hope more "happy accidents" happen at FOX so that we get more good movies.

[Zak213]

I agree with Songbird since them not having all the rights can be a good thing because it pushes them to search thru their catalogue and find characters to use rather than rely on the big guns.

I feel that spidey and X-men might never truly come back to marvel.

[Songbird/Diamondback]

I agree with Songbird since them not having all the rights can be a good thing because it pushes them to search thru their catalogue and find characters to use rather than rely on the big guns.

I feel that spidey and X-men might never truly come back to marvel.

And let's face it, Spider-Man did Doc Ock, Green Goblin, Venom, Sandman, and is about to do the lizard and they told his origins twice. If they reboot Spider-Man AGAIN...ugh! Might as well be in Groundhog Day.

[CHOX]

And let's face it, Spider-Man did Doc Ock, Green Goblin, Venom, Sandman, and is about to do the lizard and they told his origins twice. If they reboot Spider-Man AGAIN...ugh! Might as well be in Groundhog Day.

Imagine Billy Murray playing JJJ.

[XPac]

I agree with Songbird since them not having all the rights can be a good thing because it pushes them to search thru their catalogue and find characters to use rather than rely on the big guns.

I feel that spidey and X-men might never truly come back to marvel.

Yeah, that's a good point.

Marvel is no doubt looking for the next big screen sucess, and if they can't find that with established franchises like Fantastic Four, Spider-Man and X-Men, then it does force them to look elsewhere.

Overall, I do think marvel not holding the liscensing for certain franchises overall means more comic book movies being made. From a certain perspective I suppose that's a good thing, though there are downsides to flooding the market with inferior movies too.

[RDMacQ]

FOX's success with First Class seemed mostly like it was a happy accident, they never really seemed to have a lot of faith in the movie given the lack of merchandising for it and how oddly they treated Matthew Vaughn.

As for Marvel owning all the other properties, that would of course be the ideal situation but I just hope more "happy accidents" happen at FOX so that we get more good movies.

However, with the success of the Avengers movie, and the critical and commercial success of the X-Men franchise, I wouldn't be surprised if there was a meeting a Fox sometime in the next week to hash out how best to relaunch the X-Men franchise and make it on par with the Avengers. Same thing at Warner Brothers.

If Twilight and Harry Potter can cause a lot of licenses to be option to try and gleam off their success, it's no surprise that companies like Fox or the WB would try to see how best the properties they already own can do to feed off the success of this movie.

[esc0]

They could copy what they did w/ the Avengers and do it to the cosmic scene
FF
Nova
Silver Surfer
Super Skrull
Ronan
Thanos

Annihilation.
I would expect them to condense and streamline the story to make sense but it could be a fantastic Space Epic if done as well as the Avengers.
I'd like to see Iron Fist, Heroes for Hire, Blade remake, Dr Strange, Black Widow/Hawkeye done similar to the new 007/bourne, Runaways

[XPac]

They could copy what they did w/ the Avengers and do it to the cosmic scene
FF
Nova
Silver Surfer
Super Skrull
Ronan
Thanos

Annihilation.
I would expect them to condense and streamline the story to make sense but it could be a fantastic Space Epic if done as well as the Avengers.
I'd like to see Iron Fist, Heroes for Hire, Blade remake, Dr Strange, Black Widow/Hawkeye done similar to the new 007/bourne, Runaways

Since they already had a Blade and Ghost Rider movies, and since there are rumors of a Dr. Strange movie, I think they could use the same format for Midnight Sons too.

[Donsterdamus]

I just started a "Defenders movie" thread

Marvel/Disney already have the Hulk. They have the rights to Doctor Strange. Sub-Mariner? Silver Surfer? That would make up the original 3 or 4. Then who could they add? Valkyrie? The Gargoyle? Hellcat? Son of Satan? Nighthawk...or Falcon?

[CrazyOldHermit]

People tend to forget how huge the first X Men movie was. At the time the only movies based on comics that were being released were the batman sequels. That X Man movie paved the way for super hero movies, the good and bad, for the next decade. Thank you fox.

Then came along Iron Man and raised the bar even higher(also the recent batman movies). The last fox released super hero movie X Men: First Class was a success. I think fox is trying to compete. With Marvel releasing such acclaimed movies, Fox has to up their game even more.

Competition is good. Avengers would have probably been sub par if fox didn't pave the way with good and awful movies.

These are the Marvel movies Fox did:

X-Men
Daredevil
X2
Elektra
The Fantastic Four
X3
The Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer
Wolverine
X-Men: First Class

X-Men was good but isn't what kicked off Marvel's movie line (that was Blade) and wasn't what made Marvel's properties a flatout hit (that was Spider-Man).

X2 and First Class are good as well but nothing amazing. The director's cut of Daredevil is alright but the theatrical cut is mediocre at best. And the rest of the movies suck.

Fox sucks because they don't "get" the properties they have. I mean, look at Dr Doom in the Fantastic Four movie. Marvel, of course, understands their properties and knows their target audience. They know how to balance the comic with the movie Marvel understands that they need to make a good movie. Fox doesn't care about making a good movie, they just care about hitting the demographic and getting their money out of it. Their studio does not revolve around superhero movies, while thats all Marvel does. Marvel has a vested interest that Fox will never have. Thats why Marvel movies are good, Marvel doesn't want to screw up their IPs.

Fox isn't trying to compete at all. When Fox actually comes out with good superhero movie its usually because they've hired someone that actually cares. What does it say when the only good X-Men movies had Bryan Singer involved?

If Marvel views another studio as competition then its Sony with their Spider-Man movies. But even then the steam seems to have run out there too.