Where would the first brick be laid in a DC Movieverse?

[americanwonder]

The first brick should be the winner of the contest, the one to conquer all challengers, the winner of the Thunderdome:

WONDER WOMAN!

What?

Well, solo female superheroes is one of the few areas where DC clearly beats Marvel.

One plan could be: MoS --> Flash --> Batman Reboot --> World's Finest --> Green Lantern 2 --> Justice League --> Wonder Woman --> Aquaman

I'd probably go with something like this. Although, that makes a WW movie seem so far away. :(

... If the Daily Planet is as prevalent as the New York Times, people from Gotham to Coast City would be reading it. So there's one media-based link...

How 'bout Lois investigating the news as the connection? I like it!

[americanwonder]

I'd have Lex Luthor serve as kind of an anti-Nick Fury, ...

Very interesting idea, Jaded Devil. Me like!

[Mr. Holmes]

I thought it would be easier to market a Wonder Woman movie if it was riding off the (fingers crossed) success of Justice League.

[Bades]

I love the idea of the ties between movies being Lex Luthor silently stringing villains together. If not then I actually think an interesting premise would be GL trying to get his own league started for Earth. It's been shown in his universe that the Green Lanterns can't be everywhere and we all know that Hal will probably be calling them every other day. I also think the current Green Lantern movie series could be saved with a better writing team on the sequel. That being said it may have been better had they known that GL would be tied into this DC Film Universe from the beginning. If they firmly establish Man of Steel to be it's own universe, I don't see a JL movie coming together any time soon. They need to at least give us a hint early on rather than throw it at us in the middle somewhere that all of these movies happen in the same world. A hint they can back away from if need be, pulling everything together last minute will feel like a cop-op. That being said The Avengers was a fantastic movie, doing anything Justice League related would take a fantastic team to get right. Needless to say, I'm excited to see where DC decided to take us.

[americanwonder]

I thought it would be easier to market a Wonder Woman movie if it was riding off the (fingers crossed) success of Justice League.

I agree. I don't like it, but it would be an easier sell if JL helped build some momentum for WW and others, just as a Black Widow/Hawkeye movie wouldn't have as good of a chance had it come before the Avengers.

[LoneNecromancer]

I'd have Lex Luthor serve as kind of an anti-Nick Fury, providing tech and other weaponry to villains in order to combat new heroes as they debut. Say we start with a Superman film...Luthor and Brainiac team up against Superman and lose. Luthor is still free but discredited and, also having failed to get his hands on the "green ring" the hero of Coast City wears (this would be working under the idea that the Ryan Reynolds GL movie, for good or ill, is part of this shared universe), feels that the new wave of heroes is going to lead to their ruling over ordinary humans someday. So, in quick scenes in the heroes' own solo films, he gives undersea weaponry and tech to the future Black Manta to fight Aquaman, a weapon capable of freezing molecules to a low-level thug to take on the Flash as the future Captain Cold, and genetically alters a female mercenary to combat Wonder Woman as the Cheetah. At the end of the last film prior to a JLA flick, Luthor's contacted by an "agent of order" from outer space named Sinestro who seeks the help of him and his people in apprehending the "traitorous" Hal Jordan .

For the JLA movie, they go after Hal, who is defeated but escapes, and draws the other heroes...Superman, Flash, Aquaman, Wonder Woman...to his side to help combat their individual foes. The teams battle and the heroes kick the villains asses, but they escape...to a deserted warehouse in Gotham. They are discovered by the Joker who loved the chaos he saw unfolding on the TV and wants "in," telling the villains to wipe the heroes out, they have to raise the stakes...risk getting their hands dirty with a little global genocide. Though some villains are reluctant, they agree, and the heroes turn themselves into the villains rather than see millions perish. Then Batman shows up, starts to free the heroes, gets interrupted, combats the entire villain team for a brief moment before being defeated, only to be saved by the heroes who've freed themselves. Big fight ensues, heroes are triumphant, villains get sent to various jails, etc. Heroes want to start a team, Batman tells them to shove it...until weeks later, when Waynetech satellites report of an impending alien invasion. From Mars.

SO...I would say use the Justice League movie to reintroduce a new, non-Nolanized Batman and Joker to viewers (since everyone knows those two so well, we don't need another origin movie) after establishing the others in their own films, then set-up J'onn for the sequel.

Just my opinion, of course...

^THIS^ times 1,000.

I find it incredibly telling that there is NO Lex Luthor in the new Superman movie. Save Luthor until you can bring him back in the biggest way possible. (FYI--all the talk centers on Brainiac being set up for the hoped-for 2nd Superman film!)

The smartest thing that WB and DCE could do is save Luthor's return for the big shared DC movie universe. And even better...have Luthor put together an Injustice League. If done right (and yes, I know that's a big "if"), that would potentially be the best way to trump Avengers. Avengers just had Loki and his henchmen.

But an entire friggin' team of super-villains? The actual Injustice League--Sinestro, Captain Cold, Luthor, Black Manta, Circe? Basically an entire evil super-team to take on the good super-team? Now that is the way to go! That would legitimately be bigger than Avengers. You can't get bigger than a premise at least tangentially inspired by Grant Morrison's "Rock Of Ages."

And it's way cooler than 10 seconds of the poor man's Darkseid mugging for the camera.

Oh dear god that is genius.

Someone get hold of Geoff Johns' Twitter, link him to that post, and tell him to pitch that to WB.

Edit: Amusingly, it would actually be Morrison's JLA in reverse. Sort-of Rock of Ages first followed by sort-of New World Order.

[shingi70]

Saying it now plain and simple.

Worlds Finest is a stupid idea for a lot of reasons.

[Luck911]

The first brick should be green lantern cameo in man of steel credits,the second brick is.successful flash movie.DC gets those things done the worry about the next step.

[Mr. Holmes]

The idea of Lex Luthor stringing together villains is definitely brilliant. Someone pitch that to someone at DCE/WB ASAP.

[shingi70]

That could work, just have something referencing lex. Like how oscorp is in amazing spiderman even though Norman doesn't seem to be.

Still led should be waited onxand have a flow like this

2013
Man Of Steel

2014
The Flash
Wonder Woman

2015
The Batman
Aquaman

[Flashpoint]

Saying it now plain and simple.

Worlds Finest is a stupid idea for a lot of reasons.

THANK YOU.

I understand and appreciate why many old school fans want a World's Finest movie, but it really is a stupid idea for so many reasons. And a waste of money.

If you're going to pony up that much dough to team-up Superman and Batman, don't do it half-@$$. Do the damn Justice League. Or if you don't want to spend the money on Justice League, then spend that kind of money on something else we haven't seen before---like The Flash or Aquaman or Wonder Woman.

[Flashpoint]

The idea of Lex Luthor stringing together villains is definitely brilliant. Someone pitch that to someone at DCE/WB ASAP.

That could work, just have something referencing lex. Like how oscorp is in amazing spiderman even though Norman doesn't seem to be.

Still led should be waited on

Nice to see something so many of us agree on. I think David Goyer's idea of deliberately not using Luthor is inspired and brilliant. Give Luthor a rest. Let him sit aside and go away for a while so people will miss him and after a movie or two (or more) with no Luthor, people will start saying, "Hey, where's Luthor? Why don't they bring him back?"

Save Luthor by putting him on the sidelines for a while. Then when he returns in a movie played by some very cool actor, Luthor can truly shine in all his villainous glory.

[shingi70]

Excatly what I was thinking. Its far cheaper to cast an unknown for a decently budgeted flash or wonder woman folk. And not every movie has to be a hit. The incredible hulk and Thor were both only moderately successful with hulk doing the worst which is why green lantern fooling doesn't matter in the long run. Your trying to hit the JLA movie and can build GL2 after that. Green Lantern did fail but it probably killed in merchandising and mode some kids fans which is what matters.

[Flashpoint]

Oh dear god that is genius.

Someone get hold of Geoff Johns' Twitter, link him to that post, and tell him to pitch that to WB.

Edit: Amusingly, it would actually be Morrison's JLA in reverse. Sort-of Rock of Ages first followed by sort-of New World Order.

Jaded Devil really hit the nail on the head, didn't he?

No Luthor in Man Of Steel. Then do Brainiac in the 2nd Superman movie. And then...Luthor returns to create the Injustice League and battle the whole damn Justice League.

It does sound very exciting, doesn't it?

[shingi70]

Eh I was thinking something like metallo for superman 2.

Justice League- Bainiac
Have hints leading up to the film by having various subtle warnings about something coming and things like zod being taken to create doomsday monsters. (Though but mostly cannon fodder) league fights braniac at least twice and saves the day. Luthor looks at the construction in Metropolis saying he has to take matters into his own hands as the league barley scrapped by if it wasn't for superman and cyborg or Manhunter


Justice League 2- Luther
Have each of the following movies have more than one plot thread for villians. The main one is the one the hero stops and the 2nd one or something connceted to the movie is taken by luthor to form the injustice league. Have the movie that directly leads into JL2 be the proposed supermaxxx film that ends with the escape from the prison of a notable powerhouse and smart Gillian completing the injustice league. Then JL2 is still around the big 8 but features other heroes as the threat bets bigger and the the league thinks about expanding.
Justice League 3- Darksied
Do a slmehat legends style storyline