Where would the first brick be laid in a DC Movieverse?

[Mr. Holmes]

The Martian Manhunter has been a constant (if not THE constant) in the League from it`s creation in the fifties up until Meltzer`s JLA started back in 2006. HE had a great deal of exposure in JLU, all of the animated Justice League movies and now in the young Justice cartoons, and also in Smallville.

You may not like him, but it`s gonna take a little bit more than a wave of the hand to do away with the guy. Unless Cyborg`s profile is significantly upped in the coming years - and I hope it is, but we`ll see - MM would still actually make more sense in a lot of ways.

I dunno, honestly I think Cyborg resonated with a lot of people in Teen Titans. Martian Manhunter has had "exposure" but he rarely did enough to get much appeal for him specifically.

[1505627]

In my previous idea i had the sequal to Justice league featuring a secet society that is essentially an evil counterpart to the avengers. i'll expand on that in detail

Lex Luthor: He abviously serves as the iron man counterpart. he uses his immeanse intelligence to control the world, an extreme version of tony's "I'm the only one who deserves the suit" atitude. He feels he is the only one capable of deciding what is right and what is wrong .

Hercules: In the wonder woman comics he is a villain. He fits the "battle hungry god's son" thing that thor had before his character developement. Hercules not only never gets that developement and in fact becomes a worse, more vindictive man as a result of what happens to him.

Blockbuster: a scientist who turns into a muscle bound monster. The difference between him and hulk is that, in this version, he keeps his intelligence and uses his new power to kill those he feels have wronged him

Prometheus: In this, he is an evil counter part to captain america, although only in the barest sense of him being a peak human through non-natural means

Deadshot: Mster marks men assasin. basic alignment flip on hawkeye

Poison Ivy: Seductive vamp with a tragic-ish past. counter part to widow

As for the plot, Luther creates counters to the league a la tower of babel. The leaguers help each other overcome their weaknesses and grow into a true team rather than allies of convenience

[Mr. Holmes]

That's an interesting idea, but I have to say hell no to Hercules. It's bad enough that the Wonder Woman comics gives us Hercules as a strawman to the Amazons's righteous "feminism." The general audience is familiar with the old television series and the Disney movie, and it would be jarring to give us evil Hercules. But yeah I do like the idea of an evil Avengers. I would make them more like The Light from Young Justice. You have Lex scheming and uniting dangerous villains and people with the intentions of trying to improve the world.

[Kyle Anderson]

Are you kidding? I've seen so many people say "Man, this Avengers movie is awesome. Though where was Batman?" and "I wonder if they'll make a Justice League movie next?"

The average person does not give a crap about DC/Marvel rivalry. I mean, at all. Most people can't even tell the difference. All they want are entertaining movies. And copying stuff does not stop things from being successes. I mean, Christ, it's basically what most of Hollywood does nowadays.

Exactly. There's no game. People liked the Avengers and they are interested in seing a Justice League movie.

[AdamYJ]

Flash has a pretty good rogues gallery, so it wouldn't be hard to pick a good villain for the movie. I think (and hope) they'll go with Captain Cold, but we could get Gorilla Grodd, Heatwave, Zoom, Mirror Master or the Trickster instead.

A lot of people will say Zoom, but I don't like that idea for a standalone or first Flash movie. The thing with Zoom is that, for one, he's just "evil Flash". Not that interesting to me. Another is that he's kind of Flash's nemesis. He's the one who makes the whole fight personal. I wouldn't want to see it get all down and dirty and personal in the first movie when they're just establishing Flash. I know people will say it's crazy and it's too unbelievable to put on the screen, but I'm partial to Gorilla Grodd. He was one of Flash's big recurring foes early on. So, the first film would be the origin for Barry Allen and the introduction to some of Barry's supporting cast. Notably Iris West and her inventor father Ira West and some characters from the crime lab. And the threat would be Gorilla Grodd. Maybe he wants some invention of Ira's. Then, provided the movie is popular enough, we move on to the sequel with the Rogues. We play with the world of Central City and introduce this group of blue-collar, gimmicky thugs. We play up the idea of trust and teamwork and introduce the first teaming of the Rogues. Not a big group. Probably just Captain Cold, Trickster and Mirror Master. Maybe have Pied Piper off to the edges playing the more ambiguous character. Then, have a parallel plot where Barry's dealing with Wally West as he becomes Kid Flash. Then, finish off the trilogy with all the crazy time travel stuff and the down-and-dirty personal fight with Prof. Zoom.

Of course, this is provided that he doesn't just get one movie and then a JL movie and that's it.

[Mr. Holmes]

There's no way in hell anyone will take an evil genius gorilla seriously.

[KurtW95]

There's no way in hell anyone will take an evil genius gorilla seriously.

Yeah. I'd take a safe bet against Grodd appearing in a live-action movie.

[Will.S]

Nope. Cyborg is a totally different character. Tony Stark is all about snark and wisecracks and gettin' all the p00n+ang he can score (and getting drunk while doing it).

Victor Stone is the son of a professor who aspires to be a jock. He's the classic misfit whose weapons are an amalgam of technology from here and other worlds. He's also the guy who can hack into alien teleportation devices and teleport the team all over the world. Oh, and he doesn't fly, isn't a millionaire and, unlike the eternal narcissistic playboy Stark, he can't get out of his armor. He's lost part of his humanity. He's also a college age kid; someone with a tragic story that trumps all of Stark's money and ego.

Not the same characters at all.

Yeah I don't think people will be crying foul about Cyborg provided you flesh out his character enough and use his tech in a different manner. Nobody currently thinks that he's a copy cat of Iron Man in the comics (as far as I know at least).

If we are talking about these films splintering off into separate franchises then I don't see how Cyborg or Martian Manhunter would work, since there origin in inherently tied into a team mythos (and like someone else said, Cyborg would just seem like a cheap rip off of Iron Man even though he is much cooler; in a 2 hour film they aren't going to be able to develop the character all that much). I'd say they should add another female character like Hawkgirl instead.

I think either Cyborg of Martian Manhunter can work depending on approach. Manhunter can easily be done by having him be a part of the White Martian invasion but not feeling right with it and defecting to the Justice League. But doing an alien invasion after Avengers did can seem a little too close in idea regardless of how different it's carried out so that would be tricky. With regards to Cyborg, I actually liked the way Johns handled Cyborg's introduction to the League so I think that could potentially work or an amalgam of various ideas which Marvel did with a lot of their film characters.

As for starting out with a Justice League movie outright, if you want to spawn solo movies after that you have to meticulously plan the casting so that it goes off so well that the actors can actually carry their solo films when it comes time to do it. If you have say a weak Batman actor in Justice League then that's not going to go well for future Batman films so I do think that really good initial casting is key.

But I do think that DC should open up their films more for more potential characters, I understand that they want to develop the characters as solo ventures and that's fine but at least lay in some ground work like with Cadmus, John Henry Irons, mention Gotham....anything to make it seem more expansive. Nolan's Batman kind of suffers from this by not leaving any room for Robin or other more fantastic characters/elements, especially if his trilogy is going to be closed off rather than carried on later by other directors/actors.

[BFF]

Are you kidding? I've seen so many people say "Man, this Avengers movie is awesome. Though where was Batman?" and "I wonder if they'll make a Justice League movie next?"

The average person does not give a crap about DC/Marvel rivalry. I mean, at all. Most people can't even tell the difference. All they want are entertaining movies. And copying stuff does not stop things from being successes. I mean, Christ, it's basically what most of Hollywood does nowadays.

You're dreaming if you think a JL movie would be anywhere near as successful critically and commerically as Avengers.

By the time JL gets released, there will probably already be an Avengers 2 and the general public will be tired of superhero teamups by then.

There is zero chance the public would react well to a JL movie. Everything will be"Oh, I've seen this already with the Avengers." It will be panned critically. It will bomb (relatively speaking) at the box office.

Seriously, it was a race. DC lost.

[destro]

You're dreaming if you think a JL movie would be anywhere near as successful critically and commerically as Avengers.

By the time JL gets released, there will probably already be an Avengers 2 and the general public will be tired of superhero teamups by then.

There is zero chance the public would react well to a JL movie. Everything will be"Oh, I've seen this already with the Avengers." It will be panned critically. It will bomb (relatively speaking) at the box office.

Seriously, it was a race. DC lost.

Can I borrow that crystal ball you seem to own? Because how else can you predict the future with such accuracy? Seriously, there is absolutely nothing to back up your statements beyond pure opinion.

[Gamma Burst]

You're dreaming if you think a JL movie would be anywhere near as successful critically and commerically as Avengers.

By the time JL gets released, there will probably already be an Avengers 2 and the general public will be tired of superhero teamups by then.

There is zero chance the public would react well to a JL movie. Everything will be"Oh, I've seen this already with the Avengers." It will be panned critically. It will bomb (relatively speaking) at the box office.


Seriously, it was a race. DC lost.

This.

[Will.S]

You're dreaming if you think a JL movie would be anywhere near as successful critically and commerically as Avengers.

By the time JL gets released, there will probably already be an Avengers 2 and the general public will be tired of superhero teamups by then.

There is zero chance the public would react well to a JL movie. Everything will be"Oh, I've seen this already with the Avengers." It will be panned critically. It will bomb (relatively speaking) at the box office.

Seriously, it was a race. DC lost.

That's a pretty defeatist attitude, the JLA are different characters with different mythologies so I think the general public will see that it's a different type of team movie although whether they'll see the JLA as a "copycat" movie after Avengers will be hard to determine. Most likely they'll just be excited to see Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, etc. all under one movie and hope that it's good, Avengers or no all those characters still have quite a lot of name recognition.

[hugh45]

I wouldn't use Amanda Waller because it'd be too obvious a copy/clone of Nick Fury and S.H.I.E.L.D. from Marvel's films.

DC needs to carve out a separate identity.

If I were to do it, each of the new heroes' individual films (most likely Superman's, but also possibly the Flash's) would end with the hero having conquered the main menace of his/her film, looking towards the horizon in horror as a white wall of antimatter begins dissolving the world.

Yes, I think the "common menace" that brings the Justice League together should not be Darkseid (because Marvel seems intent on using the similar Thanos for that purpose), but the Anti-Monitor. It wouldn't be COIE, necessarily, but basically an Anti-Monitor-led Crisis.

Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

It should be something like Marvel's 'Supreme Power'. Where he's hearing rumors about other beings having extraordinary powers in certain cities and he goes to investigate it.

[Mr. Holmes]

It can't really be a race if the opponent wasn't participating.

[Hwlights92]

Here's the films I'd do, though the order is undecided:

Batman
Superman
Green Lantern
Aquaman
Flash
Wonder woman

And then eventually a Nightwing spinoff of batman