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    Quote Originally Posted by AdvanceBushido View Post
    1 Rogue power is involuntary power Absorption: Can absorb the memories, knowledge, talents, personality and physical abilities (whether superhuman or not) of another human being (or members of some sentient alien races) through physical contact of her skin with the skin of the other person. She is not limited to absorbing superhuman abilities: for example, she has absorbed the strength, agility, and sharp reflexes of an enhanced human. She can also absorb psionic abilities.

    2. I didn't see the movie yet. In the movie he was overloaded?
    Thor sent a lightning bolt down on Stark and overclocked his system at 400% and fired back at Thor automatically at full power.

    And this is movie Rogue. Xavier stated in X1 to Logan that when rogue touches another mutant she absorbs their powers. in your case the ability to heal. and mentions she is incapable of human contact. ROgue can F up Bruce Banner but not Hulk.

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    You were claiming the Avengers lose even though you haven't seen it? That's...very silly.

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    1. Good point, that certainly would not work. So how would he be able to deflect a tornado? While getting blasted with optic beams from Scott?
    2. Not according to http://x-men.wikia.com/wiki/Rogue_(X-men_Movies)

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    Not really, because the movies tend to based of the comics.

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    Oh my is it page 1 again? Because I'm suddenly having to repeat the same stuff I put on page 1

    Quote Originally Posted by Hiromi View Post
    In any case Rogue's power has a delay before it starts kicking in, in that time period Hulk turns her to mush.
    Hulk jumping up and doing a backbuster into the ground springs to mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdvanceBushido View Post
    Not really, because the movies tend to based of the comics.
    Read the rules thread. What they do in the comics means jack as to what they do in the movies, they're different entities with different levels of power.
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    Idk when wolverine stab her and she touches him, Wolverine's regenerative powers kicked in right then and there. But let's say your right, then Nightcrawler is jaunting them away from the hulk.

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    Your right I don't doubt you. I'm just saying that I have my reasons. It's my free will to enter a debate based on my judgment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiromi View Post
    Read the rules thread. What they do in the comics means jack as to what they do in the movies, they're different entities with different levels of power.
    yeah, I mean if Movie characters powers are 100% equivelant to their powers in the comics, then Anyone thats ever fought Surfer would have just needed to knock him off his board to win.

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    It most certainly did not, she had her hand on him a full few seconds before it kicked in, same when she kissed her unnamed boy friend, and it took forever for it to kick in at the end of the movie.

    Idk when wolverine stab her and she touches him, Wolverine's regenerative powers kicked in right then and there. But let's say your right, then Nightcrawler is jaunting them away from the hulk.
    Which accomplishes all of nothing, except pissing off Hulk even further, who will tag them eventually or start hitting them with aoe strikes on the ground.

    OR

    Thor can just fill the arena with lightning, you remember Thor, the other guy who could solo this?

    OR

    Iron Man could use any of his several aoe quick fire attacks(laser, shoulder mounted rubber bullets, etc)

    Not to mention both Rogue and Night Crawler can be taken down by the humans on the Avengers squad
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    You're right. But I don't think it's wrong to believe that X-men could win. And I'm not basing my arguments on the comic but on the movies.

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    You mean the movie you've admitted to not seeing? That would mean you're basing your argument on, well nothing. Shocker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiromi View Post
    It most certainly did not, she had her hand on him a full few seconds before it kicked in, same when she kissed her unnamed boy friend, and it took forever for it to kick in at the end of the movie.



    Which accomplishes all of nothing, except pissing off Hulk even further, who will tag them eventually or start hitting them with aoe strikes on the ground.

    OR

    Thor can just fill the arena with lightning, you remember Thor, the other guy who could solo this?

    OR

    Iron Man could use any of his several aoe quick fire attacks(laser, shoulder mounted rubber bullets, etc)

    Not to mention both Rogue and Night Crawler can be taken down by the humans on the Avengers squad
    it was agreed in another thread that Starks armor is not telepathic proof. Whats to stop phoenix of mind raping Stark ? I can see Stark losing here, but Thor and Hulk are still a problem even with phoenix.

    Nightcrawler would end up just teleporting away after seeing what the Avengers can do.

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    Jean did not ever at any point in any 3 movies, phoenix or otherwise, telepathically assault anyone. The only time she could even read minds was with the target sitting right in front of her, doing what she said. Professor X was the only one to actually demonstrate any kind of offensive telepathy. She only ever used telekinesis in combat

    She summed it up best when Logan asked if her telepathy was like Charle's

    Jean: "No where near that powerful."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiromi View Post
    Jean did not ever at any point in any 3 movies, phoenix or otherwise, telepathically assault anyone. The only time she could even read minds was with the target sitting right in front of her, doing what she said. Professor X was the only one to actually demonstrate any kind of offensive telepathy. She only ever used telekinesis in combat
    in X2 She had control of Xavier and Nightcrawler. Why couldnt she have control over Stark ?

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