Anyway, I am very gratified that Avengers is number 1. I have been reading the book for 25 years and I was made fun of in high school for liking comics and wearing Spider-Man shirts all of the time back in 1988. So yea, I am like I knew this back then how cool Avengers was it just took you guys 25 years to catch up
Well, Better luck next time, Marvel. :)
If you adjust for inflation I think the two biggest movies in the U.S. are Gone with the wind followed by the original Star Wars. Both have robots in them, I think. Coincidence?
1 The Dark Knight WB $533,345,358 4,366 $158,411,483 4,366 7/18/08
2 Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2 WB $381,011,219 4,375 $169,189,427 4,375 7/15/11
3 Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone WB $317,575,550 3,672 $90,294,621 3,672 11/16/01
4 Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince WB $301,959,197 4,455 $77,835,727 4,325 7/15/09
5 Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 1 WB $295,983,305 4,125 $125,017,372 4,125 11/19/10
6 Inception WB $292,576,195 3,792 $62,785,337 3,792 7/16/10
7 Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix WB $292,004,738 4,285 $77,108,414 4,285 7/11/07
8 Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire WB $290,013,036 3,858 $102,685,961 3,858 11/18/05
9 The Matrix Reloaded WB $281,576,461 3,603 $91,774,413 3,603 5/15/03
10 The Hangover WB $277,322,503 3,545 $44,979,319 3,269 6/5/09
Granted Dark Knight is the top movie for Warner, but none of the other top ten are DC properties. So is DC really so important to WB in terms of all their movie properties?
For DC the comic book company, it's kind of powerless in how it can affect WB's movie production. It can only look on with some nervous bemusement at how the movies perform. If WB makes mistakes, DC just has to silently suffer.
Now if we're talking about this new entity called DC Entertainment--there I think someone named Diane Nelson must feel like crap. But again all the past failures of Warner Brothers can't be laid at her door. She's stuck with a lot of productions in development before DC Entertainment was created.
And then if we turn to Marvel/Disney, there again the story of movie production is something very different from what we see in terms of DC and WB. The Avengers movie is a Paramount production not Disney. The Spider-Man movies come from Sony/Columbia. The X-Men movies come from Fox. So the Disney movie studios can't really dance in the street over the success of these Marvel movies, since they're being made by their competition. Of course, the Marvel Studios arm can do a Snoopy happy dance because by farming out their properties to different studios they seem to have done okay. This is a very different paradigm from DC/Warner, where WB usually produces or co-produces DC properties.
Disney has a right to party, because even though they can't list Marvel movies in their top ten, their other properties have performed well for their Buena Vista studios.
1 Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest BV $423,315,812 4,133 $135,634,554 4,133 7/7/06
2 Toy Story 3 BV $415,004,880 4,028 $110,307,189 4,028 6/18/10
3 Finding Nemo BV $339,714,978 3,425 $70,251,710 3,374 5/30/03
4 Alice in Wonderland (2010) BV $334,191,110 3,739 $116,101,023 3,728 3/5/10
5 The Lion King BV $312,855,561 2,624 $1,586,753 2 6/15/94
6 Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End BV $309,420,425 4,362 $114,732,820 4,362 5/25/07
7 Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl BV $305,413,918 3,416 $46,630,690 3,269 7/9/03
8 The Sixth Sense BV $293,506,292 2,821 $26,681,262 2,161 8/6/99
9 Up BV $293,004,164 3,886 $68,108,790 3,766 5/29/09
10 The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe BV $291,710,957 3,853 $65,556,312 3,616 12/9/05
Believe it or not, Avengers is the first Marvel film for Disney, even thou Iron Man 3 will be the first with a Disney logo. When Disney wanted to buy the rights back, for some reason Paramount wanted to keep their name and logo on this film. So yea, trust me this was shipped by Disney. If you don't believe me, watch it again and at the end of the credits, it states that it is a Disney production
A link to the Avengers info on Boxofficemojo.com
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Tho a comparison of the final act to the final act of TF3 would be apt. Largest building in the city used to open space bridge for aliens/alien homeworld? Check. Giant mechanical worm-like monster destroying city? Check. it's like they wrote the final act script after have come home from the movies last summer. Both movies were rather by the numbers plot wise, as are most movies of this sort. That was one of my biggest disappointments with the Avengers. Whedon didn't even try to think outside the epic action movie box here. This would have been more excusable if the characters stories weren't so by the numbers as well. Heroes meet. Heroes fight each other. Heroes eventually work well together (and work like they had been training together for years) to stop the enemy. Whedon is not known for dumbing down his work for the masses, which is why he has remained a cult icon and not a mass media success. I expect more than a Michael Bay adaption of a typical Stan Lee plot from him and just didn't get it. Hopefully Disney will not be blinded by the cash and will allow him to write at his normal level for a sequel and doesn't demand a dumbed down sequel for the masses.
WOOHOO Awesome movie!!!!
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Marvel attempted to bring most of their characters to live action TV in the 1970s, but only the Hulk and Spider-man made it to series, with Spidey being axed after just a few months.
WB has hinted at bringing Batman back to TV after this movie. I say go for it. Tie it into Arrow and Booster Gold, maybe thru a guest character or two crossing between series/networks. Someone like the Phantom Stranger, Boston Brand or even the Martian Manhunter. Allow the JLA to build thru these shows over time and THEN bring the full team to the big screen.
Maybe Justice League would work as a TV series, like an ensemble cast police drama. If they used mainly non-powered heroes. Batman in the lead, with Green Arrow, Black Canary, Mr. Terrific, Blue Beetle, and Zatanna.
A lot of people have pointed out that some recent films have been 'hits' but probably wouldn't have been a few years back because the extra $$$$ some people shell out for the 3-D allows the films to earn more money on ticket prices rather than volume of ticket sales.
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One thing that doesn't help DC is that it's big heroes come from fictional hometowns. Gotham isn't real. Don't chime in with "they mean it to be New York or Chicago"...they call it "Gotham" and Gotham it isn't a real place. Batman never leaves Gotham in his movies for any length of time. Metropolis? Not real. Isn't New York. They don't call it New York, they call it "Metropolis." Superman does get around, though, so that's a plus. [But next year's movie will be the 6th incarnation/reboot of Superman in 30 years (I'm counting at least 3 live-action TV series since the late 1980s)...and I'm not sure if people will want any more...especially since there hasn't been an actor since Christopher Reeve that anyone will truly accept in the role.] And what's this Central City, Coast City garbage?
I think last year everyone was worried about "Superhero Fatigue." I think NOW is the time we'll see if Superhero Fatigue will truly exist or not. Executives are seeing Avengers make cash registers jingle, and that means we may soon be buried under an avalanche of crappy superhero adaptations...quick cash-ins. I'm not saying Marvel is going to do it, but I daresay WB, 20th Century Fox, etc., will.
So I'm happy that my childhood heroes--underdogs until recently, as far as widespread awareness of their existence was concerned (what average citizen knew what an Iron Man was before 2008?)--got a HUGE moment in the spotlight this weekend. To me, this is almost like some little midwestern college kicking tail and winning the NCAA Basketball tournament. But it's ironic that while these 7 characters (Cap, IM, Thor, Hulk, Widow, Hawkeye, Fury) have never been more popular, the medium they sprang from has never been less popular. And this may be the peak for superhero popularity. I hope not! But what comes next is going to have to be seriously well-crafted. There's no half-assing it from here on out, if the genre is to remain relevant.
Sorry, I think that should have been at least two separate posts, because those statements aren't entirely connected to each other.
Now all the lamestreamers know who the Avengers are.
And while I'm glad that the Avengers movie is making money and breaking records, that doesnt really matter to me. I'm just glad that it actually lived up to the hype and was a great movie.