Does Wolverine owe Bishop an apology?

[remydat]

Except it's not really a nurture issue with Hope since she's been raised on the side of the angels. It's just the fact that she's a Phoenix Host.

Yes it is. The issue with Wolverine is not not Hope, it is the PF. Wolvy has no problem with the notion that nurture can win out as seen with Evan. That is different than Bishop because he made a decision based on presumably the notion that Hope inherently evil. If Bishop believed in the nurture idea then he would not have tried to kill Hope as a baby before any nurturing took place. His willingness to do so suggests he thinks Hope is inherently evil ie nature.

[remydat]

I don't want to take sides in the nature vs nurture debate but there have been more instances of good Phoenix hosts than of a good Apocalypse.

This is not accurate. There have been more instances that we have witnessed but again if the PF is as old as the Universe, it is 15 billion years old. If it takes a host once every 150,000 years then it has taken 100,000 hosts in its lifetime of which we have seen only 4 or 5. We are in no position to conclude on whether it is good or bad based on that limited number of hosts that we have seen.

[Phoenix Egg]

Of course he owes Bishop an apology. They all do.


Bishop got fucked over really badly.


Just another reason to hate that stupid clone.

[RolandJP]

Since Bishop commuted 9,000,000,000 murderers he is far worse than anything that Hope might do, people only owe him death

Alternate/future universe lives dont count.

because it hasnt happened yet. RE: Senator Kelly.

He killed how many Mutants??

[mikekerrIII]

Of course he owes Bishop an apology. They all do.

BS

Bishop got fucked over really badly.

Nobody made him try to kill a baby or commit worldwide genocide, he screwed himself over.

[mikekerrIII]

Alternate/future universe lives dont count.

because it hasnt happened yet. RE: Senator Kelly.

He killed how many Mutants??

So The folks that Hope supposedly killed don't count either? They are as real in Hopes timeline as Hopes actions are in Bishops.

[darknessatnoon]

Bishop only killed hypothetical people.

[Dr. Sonic]

Time travel theory, to the extent that it is a real science, copes with two central, mutually exclusive paradigms. One suggests that there is one, singular time line that can be affected and changed by way of intra-time disturbance and manipulation. The other is that there are multiple timeline, a multiverse, and that altering a future or past event doesn't change the timeline of origin, but rather creates a whole new timeline adjacent to the original.
The later of these two concepts is the one that is accepted by the vast majority of conceptual time-travel science. And to this extent, Bishop cannot save his future by killing Hope, he can only create a new timeline where whatever affect she has does not occur; and that furthermore, his presence within his own past automatically alters his timeline, nullifying his ability to predict the future, and creating a brand new timeline where anything can happen.

[LeonardEugenius]

I think Bishop owes Samuel L. Jackson an apology.

[ZNOP]

The biggest problem I'm having with this is the fact that Bishop is doing all of this time-hopping and never seems to run into any of his analog selves...

[Dr. Sonic]

I think Bishop owes Samuel L. Jackson an apology.

I owe Samuel L. an apology. I never saw 'Snakes on a Plane.'

[LeonardEugenius]

I owe Samuel L. an apology. I never saw 'Snakes on a Plane.'

You didn't miss much. "Get these mutha f*ckin snakes, off this mutha f*ckin plane." FIN

[MartinRedmond]

Since Bishop commuted 9,000,000,000 murderers he is far worse than anything that Hope might do, people only owe him death

Did you mean he commuted people as in murdered them or that he drove a ginormous amount of murderers around town?

[ExodusCloak]

Time travel theory, to the extent that it is a real science, copes with two central, mutually exclusive paradigms. One suggests that there is one, singular time line that can be affected and changed by way of intra-time disturbance and manipulation. The other is that there are multiple timeline, a multiverse, and that altering a future or past event doesn't change the timeline of origin, but rather creates a whole new timeline adjacent to the original.
The later of these two concepts is the one that is accepted by the vast majority of conceptual time-travel science. And to this extent, Bishop cannot save his future by killing Hope, he can only create a new timeline where whatever affect she has does not occur; and that furthermore, his presence within his own past automatically alters his timeline, nullifying his ability to predict the future, and creating a brand new timeline where anything can happen.

At the time McDuffie released an issue saying that a large enough impact on the past can change the future. It takes four people to change the future according to his FF series.

[DeadXMan]

It would take an Avengers fan to think that committing 9 billion murders was right

Alternatie time lines don't count:P

Ultra Mega Chicken has killed more in this crossover then Bishop ever has