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    Quote Originally Posted by marshal99 View Post
    Why do you think there are humor breaks from the action scenes ? The Hulk/Thor , the hulk/loki scenes are meant as a break from the non-stop fighting and seriousness.
    Those comedy bits definitely broke the tension. But there weren't enough moments like that dispersed in that final battle to make me any less bored of seeing nameless CGI alien number 5146 getting hit in the face with Cap's shield.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smhoulihan View Post
    Those comedy bits definitely broke the tension. But there weren't enough moments like that dispersed in that final battle to make me any less bored of seeing nameless CGI alien number 5146 getting hit in the face with Cap's shield.
    Really? Did you miss Cap barking out orders to cops and them ignoring him until he proved himself...or even Hawkeye giving strategic combat info from his point...or all of them...they all pooled their strengths...it was awesome

    I loved the random beat downs as much as the epic one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smhoulihan View Post
    Those comedy bits definitely broke the tension. But there weren't enough moments like that dispersed in that final battle to make me any less bored of seeing nameless CGI alien number 5146 getting hit in the face with Cap's shield.
    Most alien invasion movies/war movies are like that , when you see a war movie in WW II , do you think you care about the numerous german soldiers being cut down by the movie's heroes ? No. It's never a complaint , it's about getting from point A to point B and achieving the objective - in the movie , it's closing the portal and cutting off the endless wave of footsoldiers and the giant serpent ships while trying their best to stem the tide.

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    Love the movie. Hulk easily stole the show. Just about everything he did was geek out moment for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziza9 View Post
    hahaha. I concur. Just five minutes ago I was fighting to save earth from the Reapers. Didn't have 2 seconds to catch my breath.
    Avengers had a much better ending.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marshal99 View Post
    Most alien invasion movies/war movies are like that , when you see a war movie in WW II , do you think you care about the numerous german soldiers being cut down by the movie's heroes ? No. It's never a complaint , it's about getting from point A to point B and achieving the objective - in the movie , it's closing the portal and cutting off the endless wave of footsoldiers and the giant serpent ships while trying their best to stem the tide.
    The difference between a WW II war movie and the Avengers is pretty astronomical.

    In a WW II war movie, the battles are fought by real, terrified people and a soldier can be killed with a bullet. One bullet.

    In The Avengers it's demi-gods, super-soldiers, hulking behemoths, and men in advanced mechanized battle armor fighting waves and waves of generic CGI alien hordes who look like they're firing pea shooters.

    There's no jeopardy and you never feel like any of the heroes are in peril.

    As someone on the boards already said (I'm paraphrasing): the constant CGI fest is like watching someone play a video game who won't hand over the controller to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmeyers View Post
    since it's the only team movie that exists
    LOL! No love for the (non-Corman) Fantastic Four movies? They have their moments, yet each is a cheesefest. Those and the X-trilogy should be the templates on how NOT to do a superteam film.


    Quote Originally Posted by dbcb314 View Post
    Can you imagine Whedon on an X-men movie?

    People forget the first two X-men movies were pretty darn good, especially X2. The last two crapped the bed though
    The first movie is craptastic, the second is serviceable, the third is a joke. They got nearly everything wrong. I'd rather Whedon get to work on Avengers II: The Coming Of Thanos.

    Quote Originally Posted by smhoulihan View Post
    But in the finale, the damage done to the population of the city at the end is only hinted at, never shown
    I disagree. We do see the aftereffects of the carnage being dealt with on the monitors, including one scene of rows of candles being lit (for casualties, obviously) and cleanup activities.

    I think the scope of battle and its aftermath were adequately conveyed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smhoulihan View Post
    The difference between a WW II war movie and the Avengers is pretty astronomical.

    In a WW II war movie, the battles are fought by real, terrified people and a soldier can be killed with a bullet. One bullet.

    In The Avengers it's demi-gods, super-soldiers, hulking behemoths, and men in advanced mechanized battle armor fighting waves and waves of generic CGI alien hordes who look like they're firing pea shooters.

    There's no jeopardy and you never feel like any of the heroes are in peril.

    As someone on the boards already said (I'm paraphrasing): the constant CGI fest is like watching someone play a video game who won't hand over the controller to you.
    And I say to that, what else did you expect? It's a movie, more importantly It's a comic book movie and even more importantly than that it's a comic book movie staring the heavy hitter of the Marvel Universe. Did you really pay 12 buck expecting a drone army and Loki to make you feel like Earth Mightiest Heroes were/might get killed? Your nit picking to nit pick imo, I feel Marvel pulled it off and deserve the rewards/praise they are getting from the fans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    Avengers had a much better ending.
    Touche. :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by smhoulihan View Post
    Those comedy bits definitely broke the tension. But there weren't enough moments like that dispersed in that final battle to make me any less bored of seeing nameless CGI alien number 5146 getting hit in the face with Cap's shield.
    I think those moments that we got were enough. Too many more and the momentum and tension would have been lost imo. Everything was ramped up to 11 and that frenetic pace seemed more than appropriate for a big bombastic comic book brawl on screen.
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    Did i bring up the bit where, just in the background, one of the big ship...snake things is flying by, and hulk is hanging off it's mouth punching it in the face?
    I loved that so much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamal View Post
    And I say to that, what else did you expect? It's a movie, more importantly It's a comic book movie and even more importantly than that it's a comic book movie staring the heavy hitter of the Marvel Universe. Did you really pay 12 buck expecting a drone army and Loki to make you feel like Earth Mightiest Heroes were/might get killed? Your nit picking to nit pick imo, I feel Marvel pulled it off and deserve the rewards/praise they are getting from the fans.

    Marvel definitely pulled it off and does deserve praise from their fans. But that doesn't mean the film is perfect and beyond critique. I think the climatic battle drags a bit.

    To add to my nitpicks for nitpicks sake: I also think the film takes a while to get going, and doesn't explain Loki's motivations very well.

    There's a couple more for you to put in your book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smhoulihan View Post
    Marvel definitely pulled it off and does deserve praise from their fans. But that doesn't mean the film is perfect and beyond critique. I think the climatic battle drags a bit.

    To add to my nitpicks for nitpicks sake: I also think the film takes a while to get going, and doesn't explain Loki's motivations very well.

    There's a couple more for you to put in your book.
    Ditto with this

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    I think Loki's motivation was explained a couple of times in the movie , he was meant to rule and he was supposed to be king. He couldn't have asgard so he settled for earth which is why he made the deal with "the other" so that he gets to subjugate the earth with an alien army and he will give them the cosmic cube or tessaract in return.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kmeyers View Post
    Anyone who thinks that final battle wasn't awesome, just doesn't know what they are talking about. I've fought invading alien hordes before and this is a VERY accurate depiction and documentary worthy reenactment.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ziza9 View Post
    hahaha. I concur. Just five minutes ago I was fighting to save earth from the Reapers. Didn't have 2 seconds to catch my breath.
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