What Did You Think Of "The Avengers?"

[DeadXMan]

So dose anyone think Joss was making a jab at Bursiek by making Loki bullet proof?

I liked that Thor Supercharged Tony's armor.

Why Because of CONTINUITY!!!

Tony's Father based his new element ( Until ofther wise I shall call it Uru) on the power source in Captian America
Tony was able to fabercatie it in IM2 to save his life.

[40yearoldnovafan]

You're preaching to the choir here man. I think he was brilliantly portrayed. But from what i've seen, both Thor and Loki are slightly underpowered. But it doesn't bother me.

You can't have Thor completely annihilate Iron Man like he did when he came back in JMS' run. So they made the fight more even, but still showed that Thor was easily too much for Stark.

It's films. They'll always be slightly depowered.

When Thanos shows up with the IG don't expect to see him clicking his fingers and killing half the universes population.

I actually quoted the wrong person. Sorry.

And yes, Thor was not shown to be anywhere near as powerful as he was in his own movie.

As I mentioned to my brother, in the comics, they showed that when Thor comes to Earth, he tempers his strength so he will not kill the norms. In one comic, it is mentioned. He got to accustomed to fighting at lower levels. So he had to truly cut loose on some super powerful villain.

Thor was not going to kill Tony, Tony was human. Thor thinks, now, when in battle. But we saw, him as you were mentioning, easily crush Tony's guantlet.

Also, when fighting the Hulk, Thor could not cut loose on the Hellicarrier, because all the humans would have been dead. No lightning, no flying at him at full power, nothing. In a matter of fact, he tried to hold Hulk and calm him down.

And as in boxing, when you have a faster smaller boxer fighting a bigger boxer, how do you slow the small fast guy down? You cut off the ring - thereby boxing the smaller guy (Thor) in. That is what happened on the Hellicarrier.

There was some smart writing and smart decisions in this movie. They found ways of not making characters seem outclassed, even when they were.

Jimmy

[BrotherUnitNo_4]

Then my wife went and surprised me afterwards by saying, "That part when Hulk punched Thor, it was hilarious. And it shows that he's still having trouble being completely in control. That he's trying to keep his anger in check." And I loved my wife even more at that point :)

She gets it!

[Green Lantern wannabe]

The gathering part was a bit slow, but they needed some of it to show the audience what's going on.

[Pandastrike]

I think my favorite part of the movie was when cap started giving complex orders to everyone, then he just looks at hulk and says, "hulk... Smash." the theater was going crazy during that moment, so awesome. This movie was amazing, I have never been to a movie where I am literally giggling to myself during the entire thing in glee. It's everything that a movie and comicbook should be.

[Ezio_Howlett]

Best movie I've seen so far this year. My favorite part is where Hulk is smashing Loki xD
Can't wait for it to be released on Blur-Ray/DVD, will be a day one purchase :D

[Zamdrist]

Just some more thoughts on this movie genre -

The genre and these Marvel movies in particular ask the audience (assumes it even) to suspend reality for two or so hours. That is fine, this is fantasy. It is no different than say the Lord of the Rings in that sense. A magic wielding Istari Wizard such as Gandalf is no more of a reality than say a hammer wielding god like Thor. We are temporarily suspending reality, the reality of physics, for the sake of a good story. What cannot be suspended is our understanding of human nature and interpersonal relationships. The Avengers movie and franchise does a pretty good job of that. If we care about the characters we cheer along with them at their successes and also feel their pain of loss. So I hope they continue to develop these characters more thoroughly.

[marshal99]

That's the good thing about the avengers movie being such a runaway success , it will certainly open the doors for the house of mouse to greenlit more lesser known heroes to be in their own movies or the ones in the avengers being expanded upon like Black widow or/and hawkeye.

[Guapo Méndez]

SPOILERS







I'm trying to remember all of Iron Man's nicknames for everyone. There were several for a few characters, and I don't remember them all, but they were great

Thor was "nice swing, Point Break." And his Shakepeare in the park taunt and "wearing your mother's robes comment were great...

Loki was Reindeer Games, Rock of Ages... had a "glowstick of destiny."


There were more, but I can't think of them. This movie was pretty hilarious.

In Spanish, Thor was Beach Boy instead of Point Break. And he kept calling Cap an old man. Priceless.

I liked each different Avenger's reaction to the Schwarma:

Thor and Banner seemed to be the only ones who enjoyed it.

Tony seemed to *try* to enjoy it, but it wasn't quite what he expected.

Black Widow was too out of it to really care, but she made an effort to enjoy it.

Cap and Hawkeye were just too wasted to care.

Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

We know them here as Taco Árabe and yeah, I'm craving for one right now.

I read that Cap's face is covered by his glove because he's hiding his beard.

[Guapo Méndez]

And Loki was toying with Captain America, because he was the distraction to Hawkeye's mission. Even Cap says so when they're flying back to the Helicarrier.

I'm told that if you listen to the Hulk smashing Loki scene, buried under the audience's laughter is Loki's breath escaping and it sounds like a deflating balloon.

[rev sully]

SATURDAY, MAY 05, 2012

(ed. note: re-do Sunday AM over sammich & a day to mull...)

Just Got Home from 2hr 23min Joss Whedon's Avengers movie.
In 3-D to boot.

Posty liked it better than me.

It was a CGI-Frak Fest.
Whedon's witty pen could not save this delightful project from the weight of its own fight scenes.
It wasn't a terrible movie...
just...
hmmmm...

my favorite scene was the stinger following the complete credits. Worth sitting through the Chris Cornell soundtrack contribution.

Yet how Hawkeye was knocking those arrows...I just wasn't getting it. There was something wrong with it. It simply upsets me greatly...

The Good: Scarlett Johansson. Really pulled the threads together & made Black Widow come alive.
Iron Man. I'd rather see Downey in Stark than Sherlock. Benedict Cumberpatch already got that covered but iDigress...
Mark Ruffalo's Bruce Banner fine. Edward Norton would have been better but that didn't happen. And truthfully enough I've avoided the Ang Lee Hulk with Eric Bana as Banner.

The Bad: CGI Frak-Fest means...well it's like watching someone else play a videogame and they will not let you touch the controller for two player.
And at the end, Sam Jackson's Nick Fury's speech about the Avengers being needed again sounded neither very Nick Fury-like nor very Samuel L. Jackson-esque. I'd pay to see a goof reel take with Jackson saying, "Get these muthaf&*#in' Skrulls offa this muthaf&*#in' Helicarrier!"

The Meh: Pretty Much everything else. Chris Evans as Cap. Sure. Fine casting. Hawkeye...meh. See fore mention knocking of the arrows. Thor? Loki? Sure! They did fine in the Thor movie as well. Cobie Smulders as Maria Hill. It was a role that had to be cast by a woman that looked like her so again...sure! The Story...it was an Avengers origin story cobbled together from the Quelle. Could have used a bit more Mark Millar's ULTIMATES 1 & 2 yet borrowed enough.

In the end, I'm going to see The Hunger Games again at the movies.
But I won't go back for a 2nd viewing of Avengers. Maybe someday on home video.
I wasn't expecting anything therefore I'm not disappointed. Although I am a movie fan and as a summer movie goes I'm sure the masses should be thrilled and MARVEL now PWNS the Superhero Movies with this ambitious dovetailing of their movies properties. They only had a window of time in order to get this one a few years long. Well it's done, there will be other movies.
But as a movie fan, I noticed that an episode of Madmen (S1 Ep. 11) was stronger as cinema than Whedon's Avengers. My roommate was watching Madmen on Netflix yesterday. I sat down an watched my almost first complete chapter of a story I've yet to get to (currently on the Island at LOST Season 2 No Spoilers!!!)

Whedon shines in moments of character warmth & dialog yet the overall movie could have been less than 143 minutes in running time. It could have used more Whedon Moments than CGI Moments.
Overall the property was well-handled yet for my personal taste...meh.
Sorry, Joss. I still love you.

kriya shakti,
Rev Sully

Eric O'Sullivan
Boston, MA USA
Posted by Rev Sully at 1:24 AM
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[RockinRobin182]

Part of me feels like I should apologize, but another part of me feels like you need to grow a spine.

I was making a blanket statement that I have much more faith in Roger Ebert's opinion over an anonymous commentator on a website (which, in your world, seems like an impossibility, because in your world, I guess, a person can't be an authority and have credentials that will make them more capable of judging a given subject than another person).

In no way was I addressing you. If you took it that way, than I apologize.

However, for the sake of argument, let's say I was calling you a fanboy. Is fanboy really that insulting a term? You make it sound like I hurled the most damning insult in the English language.

Jesus, man, grow up.

I'll go back on my word because I'm not done. Dude...chill. I'm allowed to be insulted if I thought you, well, insulted me. If you didn't, fine, but it certainly came off that way. All I'm saying is that, while Ebert can objectively say a movie is well made, whether he enjoyed it or not is a different story. Don't see what the conflict is there.


Moving on, 200 Million. By the gods...

[smhoulihan]

CGI Frak-Fest means...well it's like watching someone else play a videogame and they will not let you touch the controller for two player.

I liked the movie a lot more than you did (I'd rank it among the best superhero movies ever made), but I think this is a legit criticism, especially in the final battle.

It's cool that Whedon makes sure to give everyone something to do, and some of those moments are great (Thor and Hulk, Capt. America and the cops, Hawkeye and Black Widow rescuing the people trapped on the bus, Iron Man and the nuke, Hulk and Loki). and I especially liked how the underpowered characters were given time to shine, like when Black Widow hitched a ride on the flying bike, but I did find myself getting slightly bored watching CGI bad guy after CGI bad guy getting hit with a shield or hit with a hammer or shot with a bow.

It was the same feeling I get from watching a 20 minute long Michael Bay action scene; eventually, it all becomes sensory overload and white noise.

I didn't have this problem with the helicarrier action scene, but I wish Whedon had been a little more frugal when editing the final battle; maybe trimmed it down by 5 minutes, just to make it flow better.

[DeadXMan]

I get about what you are saying about the final fight but I did not get the same feeling of sensory over load as you would from Bay's Later works ( IE transformers)

Mainly due to the fact it's not on a bloody shaky cam.
But each Avenger is unique in apperance and fighting style. not an orgy of Gunmetal Grey Robots just blasting and punching. and as the fight Progess you see them tire and get injured so there's drama there.

[smhoulihan]

I get about what you are saying about the final fight but I did not get the same feeling of sensory over load as you would from Bay's Later works ( IE transformers)

Mainly due to the fact it's not on a bloody shaky cam.
But each Avenger is unique in apperance and fighting style. not an orgy of Gunmetal Grey Robots just blasting and punching. and as the fight Progess you see them tire and get injured so there's drama there.

You're right. It's definitely not as bad as a Michael Bay action scene. I just wish Whedon let it breathe a little bit. Fatigue was starting to set in.