He wanted to get near Hulk. That was what we learned from Black Widows scene with him.
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I think it's implied that the Hulk is the only one who can take out the rest of the Avengers, is that right? And he uses Hawkeye's assault to trigger the event?
Why bother to get captured at all then? Why not just have Hawkeye and his troops attack the helicarrier?
Last edited by smhoulihan; 05-07-2012 at 04:30 AM.
I think Loki was there to serve as a distraction , he was the decoy while his lead scientist was assembling the device to open the portal to let the invasion force in. If they are too busy with Loki , they can't go after the guy.
Loki was obviously confident of his own ability to escape whatever trap they had with the help of his mind controlled lackies and not only that , he can also mess up the plans of the heroes by unleashing the hulk.
Last edited by marshal99; 05-07-2012 at 05:16 AM.
Yea, not only did Loki want to get to Hulk and stir some shit up with the Avengers, but him being caught was a Red Herring. The Avengers think "ok we've got him" but at the same time his plan is continuing to come into place.
I enjoyed the movie a lot and it was a lot better then I expected it to be. To me though calling it the Avengers seems a bit misleading and I saw it more as an Ultimates movie as the story resembled the Ultimates more then the Avengers.
Ultimate Nick Fury
The government being behind SHIELD and the Avenger Initiative
The Avengers being made for the purpose to combat an evil that may arise
To a lesser degree Cap's costume
The Avengers not getting along at first
Fighting the Hulk before the Chitauri
The Chitauri invasion
The government not trusting the Avengers and wanting to control and/or monitor them
Cap, Hawkeye, and Black Widow all being founding members
and lastly the lack of "Avengers Assemble"
I really loved how Cap was portrayed in both this and his own movie think Evans pulled of the character great and is a better Cap then Human Torch. The thing I hated the most was how the Chitauri's look was changed and tha Loki was there leader. I honestly though Loki wasn't needed in the movie and the Chitauri would have been fine as the only villains, but over all loved the movie.
ps another terrible thing was while waiting in line this one girl asked who was in the movie and when this other guy was answering he referred to Hawkeye as Green Arrow lol.
And you say Loki is supposed to be a distraction, but how much of a distraction is he really when he's captured on the helicarrier? The only two people he talks to directly are Fury and Black Widow, and Fury is dismissive of Loki while Black Widow is outright playing him.
And yet, as soon as Loki is brought aboard the helicarrier, the Avengers are suspicious of each other and at each others throats.
It is implied that the Loki's staff is having a subversive effect on the Avengers. But if that's the case, why does Loki allow himself to be caught? Why doesn't he just leave the staff in Germany and let the Avengers bring it back to the helicarrier where it can tear them apart?
It's all kind of murky.
Remember when Loki was gloating to the injured coulson on the ground after he thought he had the advantage.
"Your heroes are scattered , your floating fortress falls from the sky , where is my disadvantage ?".
Loki was a very cocky overconfident guy , he didn't believe that anyone could stop him at all which is why he was unperturbed by iron man's appearance when he landed at stark towers after the whole loki escape from the helicarrier.
We have to make too many leaps of faith regarding Loki's motivation, when it should be made abundantly clear in the film itself.
If Loki has to be close to the staff to exert his negative influence, then Whedon should give Loki some expository dialogue where he says something like: "You know, I need to be close to my staff to exert my negative influence."
It's clear that Whedon went to great pains to reveal the character of The Avengers through their dialogue, I just wish he'd taken a little more time to make the actual plot of the movie more comprehensible.
Loki's motivation was clear to me anyway.
Loved this movie! Epic. I will definitely be seeing it again (and probably again after that!).
The Avengers is the superhero movie I have waited my entire life to see.