When Hulk punches Thor, I remember cracking up, then thinking for like, a split-second, 'was that too silly?'. Then I looked over and saw my wife nearly in tears, laughing so hard, and I remembered, these movies are supposed to be enjoyed. Then my wife went and surprised me afterwards by saying, "That part when Hulk punched Thor, it was hilarious. And it shows that he's still having trouble being completely in control. That he's trying to keep his anger in check." And I loved my wife even more at that point :)
Oh c'mon guys, the Hulk vs. Loki scene was golden.
A big fight with Loki using all his tricks and Hulk struggling to keep up would have been drawn out and ruin the pacing of the larger battle within the movie.
Loki talking to Hulk makes sense if you realize that things aren't going quite the way Loki planned. He was frustrated, he wanted to rule the earth, and he was convinced that all humans were beneath him. In his frustration, he tried to re-boost his own ego and reassert himself as a god, as the one who would rule, as being above humanity, and he probably thought he would be able to do so with the Hulk because the Hulk is especially dumb.
He wasn't thinking about fighting or escaping the Hulk, he was tired of that crap. He's a god, this stupid fighting is beneath him, the Hulk is beneath him, and he, as earth's future king, wasn't going to take any more crap, just because. He wasn't going to use his tricks and fight any more because he shouldn't have to, he's a god godammit, now KNEEL!
Edit: Not to mention, Loki told Hulk to stop, and he actually stopped. Why get him going again?
Last edited by Number_5; 05-06-2012 at 08:07 AM.
Originally Posted by regnak
I also don't think that an extended scene between Loki and the hulk would have ruined the film's pacing, it could have been a very dramatic confrontation, before going into the funny, would have made more sense, and didn't have to be that long. It would have been a good scene for more hulk characterisation as well, seeing how he reacted to magic tricks, before going in for the slamming.
The movie had it's flaws but the Hulk/Loki scene was far from being one of them. The alternate version protested would take too long to get to the punch line. And character and story wise it makes sense. Hulk out matched Thor physically and there's no reason he couldn't out match Loki. Even as smart as Loki is he was pretty much caught off guard by the Hulk.
And I'm glad we avoided another fake Loki trick in that scene.
Last edited by GRANT!; 05-06-2012 at 08:36 AM.
It seemed like Thor's and Loki's "power levels" were somewhat ambiguous in the film, e.g., when Loki says something like "the humans think of us an immortal; shale we find out?" before dropping Thor from the Helicarrier. Plus Fury says the cage was built for something "much stronger" than Loki, but he could've been bluffing more than providing an honest assessment.
"Everybody, sooner or later, sits down to a banquet of consequences." - Robert Louis Stevenson
Avengers has just made 200 million dollars opening weekend. Ridiculous.
Then again I prefer that over the other movies where the first act is the best part and the conclusion just falls apart.
In a matter of fact, they made Loki too strong, in my opinion. Loki does not fight Thor hand to hand like this - he would get it handed to him. Why do you think he resorts to magic (as one of us pointed out). But I actually loved seeing this physically stronger Loki. It showed that we mere Earthlings are fleas, even when compared to a runt of a frost giant like Loki.
Loki was awesome. But in no way did they suggest he was de-powered. What Joss Whedon showed is that Hulk is not to be messed with.
You can't have Thor completely annihilate Iron Man like he did when he came back in JMS' run. So they made the fight more even, but still showed that Thor was easily too much for Stark.
It's films. They'll always be slightly depowered.
When Thanos shows up with the IG don't expect to see him clicking his fingers and killing half the universes population.