Will Superman Have a new cartoon show post Man of Steel Movie?

[ngroove]

Classic animation. Rad Trunks. Primarily Metropolis Friends and Foes, guest stars limited to two per season if 13 episode seasons , 4 per season if 26 episode seasons. Mad scientist Lex.

Theme: Classic Superman

Environments includes: Metropolis, Smallville, Fortress of Solitude, Bottle City of Kandor, Krypton (reminiscent of classic "Superman Returns to Krypton", Superman #141), Phantom Zone, Lexor

Cast: Superman / Clark Kent, Lois Lane, Jimmy Olsen, Perry White, Lana Lang, Pete Ross, Lucy Lane, Supergirl / Kara Zor-El / Linda Danvers, with regular flashbacks with Jonathan & Martha Kent, and Jor-El and Lara. Others, according to environment / storyline.

Super-Pets, from most regularly used to sporadically used: Krypto the Super Dog, Streaky the Super Cat, Comet the Super Horse, Beppo the Super Monkey

Villains: Lex Luthor, Mister Mxyzptlk, Brainiac, Toymen (Winslow Schott and Jack Nimball), Prankster, SKULL, Atomic Skull, Metallo, Parasite, Master Jailer, Terra-Man, Phantom Zone Criminals (General Zod, Jax-Ur, Kru-El, Faora), Kryptonite Man, others, according to environment / storyline.

Misunderstood characters: Bizarros, Titano

[Conan The Barbarian]

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[Auguste Dupin]

I understand people like the shirt and jeans but the debate for years even more so then people not liking the trunks is the Clark Kent identity being stupid because how do you hid his identity behind slick back hair and glasses. Now you have Superman walking around as a normal human being for 6 months of his carrier and Clark Kent working for the Daily Star as a known reporter. I think this makes the problem even more so then ever before as there is no disguise with blue jeans and a t shirt.Very confusing how this accepted now as ok.

The thing is, I don't see how the classic suit would help in this. I mean, yes, it's a weird design that might draw attention, but it's not that weird. I mean, honestly, no matter what he's wearing, the second time he meets Lois Lane, logic would scream she would look at his face and say "wait a minute, are you Clark Kent?", red trunks or not, T shirt or not. Unless we buy the fact the Clark Kent costume is good enough.
And honestly, how he's portrayed during that six issues is a much more believable disguise than whaty he has for the last 30 years. Post Crisis Clark was like Superman didn't even try to hide the fact he was an ex football star with the musculature of Sylvester Stallone and wasn't really "mild mannered". There, Clark looks like a geek, with his baggy clothes that hide his muscles, his nerdy glasses and his bratty, not really smug but with similarities attitude he can have. It's, like, a million time more believable to me than how he managed to hide it in the Timm show for instance.
Besides, the T shirt have the avantage to enable him to change from one to the other much faster, since all he has to do is change the top. And we even saw in issue 1 where he hides the cape, something I kept wondering when I was a kid.
But the point is, if they ever go with such a different interpretation than the mainstream Superman in a cartoon, they will need something to say to the audience (mostly kids) "hey kids, this may be a Superman show, but this one is unlike anything you ever saw about him". Hence the T shirt look.

[Superlad93]

The thing is, I don't see how the classic suit would help in this. I mean, yes, it's a weird design that might draw attention, but it's not that weird. I mean, honestly, no matter what he's wearing, the second time he meets Lois Lane, logic would scream she would look at his face and say "wait a minute, are you Clark Kent?", red trunks or not, T shirt or not. Unless we buy the fact the Clark Kent costume is good enough.
And honestly, how he's portrayed during that six issues is a much more believable disguise than whaty he has for the last 30 years. Post Crisis Clark was like Superman didn't even try to hide the fact he was an ex football star with the musculature of Sylvester Stallone and wasn't really "mild mannered". There, Clark looks like a geek, with his baggy clothes that hide his muscles, his nerdy glasses and his bratty, not really smug but with similarities attitude he can have. It's, like, a million time more believable to me than how he managed to hide it in the Timm show for instance.
Besides, the T shirt have the avantage to enable him to change from one to the other much faster, since all he has to do is change the top. And we even saw in issue 1 where he hides the cape, something I kept wondering when I was a kid.
But the point is, if they ever go with such a different interpretation than the mainstream Superman in a cartoon, they will need something to say to the audience (mostly kids) "hey kids, this may be a Superman show, but this one is unlike anything you ever saw about him". Hence the T shirt look.

He also changed the bottom too, but yea I agree with everything you say.

[George Taylor]

Fair enough but when someone who is the talk of the whole world walks around with no secret identity really and is also in the public eye as a star reporter even if his eyes are glowing people are going to put 2 and 2 together.At least with old school Clark he was always for the most part covered from head to toe with his suit hardly ever going into public without it on from the moment he arrived in Metropolis.

But hey,To each his own way of thinking.

I don't know but classic Clark acted in such a way as if his was hiding something while drawing so much attention to his bumbling persona, especially the Chris Reeve version. But as you said, to each his own way of thinking. If you don't like DCnU Superman, along with his disguise of Clark, I'm fine with it,m an.

[Auguste Dupin]

He also changed the bottom too, but yea I agree with everything you say.

I always thought he kept the jeans. I mean, it's not like you can proove he's Superman because he has the same jeans as thousands of Americans.
But I may be mistaken.

[Superlad93]

I always thought he kept the jeans. I mean, it's not like you can proove he's Superman because he has the same jeans as thousands of Americans.
But I may be mistaken.

Take a look at issue #1 the jeans go from blue to brown and he as new sneakers (converses instead of boots)

[Starry]

We can have a Golden Age inspired Superman with the T-Shirt and everything for the first season and then progress to classic Superman for the second one.

I second that sooo hard! And let's focus on Superman and his supporting cast, no other heroes this time (or only in cameos), please! Plus a lot of Smallville-flashbacks... And hopefully we'll get to see both Supergirl and Superboy, too. Oh, and definitely not in CGI!

But honestly, as far as I'm concerned, I'd be happy with any take on Superman - I just want a new Supes cartoon, that is all.

PS. But the red trunks have to stay! A movie about Superman who doesn't wear them is enough (Kidding... Kind of!)

[Mat001]

Fair enough but when someone who is the talk of the whole world walks around with no secret identity really and is also in the public eye as a star reporter even if his eyes are glowing people are going to put 2 and 2 together.At least with old school Clark he was always for the most part covered from head to toe with his suit hardly ever going into public without it on from the moment he arrived in Metropolis.

Most newspaper reporters aren't known as well as television reporters. Their names are, but not their faces. Not everyone has a picture accompanying their byline. So it's easy for Clark Kent, in any continuity, to be out and about without people thinking too much about it. In fact, the only time Clark was famous was when he was a news reporter at WGBS and when he was a novelist, on top of being a newspaper reporter in the Post Crisis era. But even then, people didn't make the connection. Especially back in Smallville when Clark wasn't wearing glasses. Conduit didn't make the connection when he was trying to kill Clark and was rebuffed by Superman. It took a data file to help him connect the dots.

And let's not forget that Clark Kent in the Post Crisis continuity didn't always wear a suit. People saw his muscles and didn't think much of it. Now, here, he is covering up, but he's also not as big as in previous eras. In jeans and a t-shirt, without his glasses and his hair fixed right, people aren't going to make the connection. By the time he's in his new costume, he's got it down pat.

[DonC]

While every intelligent person on the planet knows they're going to reach a deal, the US copyight status of Superman post-2013 is still up in the air. I could see that possibly putting a hold on any new animated series.

[Mat001]

It hasn't affected the film, I don't see how it could affect a cartoon. They've been making solo, JLA and team-ups with Batman direct-to-DVD films. Not to mention he's been in two cartoon series since 2010.

[supergirls_pal]

I'd love to see another Superman animated series, just as long as Supergirl doesn't have that red crotch like she does in the DCnU comic.

[Fate's Faith]

Fair enough but when someone who is the talk of the whole world walks around with no secret identity really and is also in the public eye as a star reporter even if his eyes are glowing people are going to put 2 and 2 together.At least with old school Clark he was always for the most part covered from head to toe with his suit hardly ever going into public without it on from the moment he arrived in Metropolis.

But hey,To each his own way of thinking.

I'm sure there are star reporters on the New York Times but I couldn't tell you what they look like. Maybe you can. Those that work with them would be the first to make the connection but then we are surprised by people at times. This isn't television news though where we can see the reporter nightly. And thus you have millions who could potentially put the two together. Now I do wonder how he kept the secret when working on WGBS. I think I could spot Diane Sawyer if you showed me a clip of her in a super-hero identity then her at the desk. Which is one reason I think we have Clark not wanting to be on television. He's gotten smarter over the years. Though Superman standing there doing an interview with someone who works with him daily does start to make one question just how smart these guys are. I think there's a lot of dependence that people don't ever consider they could be the same person. So when you're talking to Clark then he disappears and Superman is on the scene, I would think you would start considering that question.

[Fate's Faith]

The thing is, I don't see how the classic suit would help in this. I mean, yes, it's a weird design that might draw attention, but it's not that weird. I mean, honestly, no matter what he's wearing, the second time he meets Lois Lane, logic would scream she would look at his face and say "wait a minute, are you Clark Kent?", red trunks or not, T shirt or not.

I liked how the Green Lantern movie just threw the secret identity idea with his friends out. Really, who would be fooled by someone you've known for years putting on a mask? And here there's no mask. I think at some point if Superman and Clark keep interacting with Lois and company he's going to get to that same point. The Clark disguise so far is really so different that it might take some years. And I'm not sure if in this version Superman deals that closely with anyone from the Planet. If it was me, I'd probably make him avoid all news outlets and the Planet especially but so far, it seems the way they work together is over the phone and such. Not sitting across from each other at a desk.

On the subject of an animated series, like I said, I would like the t-shirt and jeans but only in flashback. I'm not sure anyone needs to see Superman become Superman again. We've just seen that recently with Smallville. The comics are addressing it very well. I don't think I'd care to see animation take on the same. I'd actually like to see some of his lesser known villains get some makeovers and showcased a little more than those we've seen a good bit. I mean, Lex Luthor has had so much exposure, I would almost wish he take a long vacation.

[NotSuper]

I'd use the new suit. Maybe start with the proletarian Action costume first, though.

As for Lex, I'd have him be a legendary figure, the Keyzer Soze of the DCaU--the boogeyman other criminals talk about, who supposedly runs most of the criminal activities on the planet. This Luthor would be a multidisciplinary scientist and inventor, who is a master of disguise and a master manipulator. Superman is the first one to expose Lex Luthor as a real person and thus Lex has to resort to openly fighting him instead of resorting to underlings. Not being able to crush Superman like an ant and having to "lower" himself to build weapons to fight him disgusts Lex and makes him feel like--gasp--an average person. Thus, his distaste for Superman becomes personal.