EXCLUSIVE: Robinson Leaves A Big Hole in "Earth 2"

[TF_loki]

No . . . not available at Barnes & Noble, and I'm not inclined to go out of my way to find a way to get to a comic book store for a book written by Robinson.

Digital option?

[Goldenboy882]

I am not trying to start anything, but did Robinson say that the Trinity for Earth 2 is Superman, Batman and Green Lantern? Even with Jay's connection to a mythological god from Diana's pantheon, he is still the sci-fi GL of the group?

Maybe I am just over analyzing this interview. It does not really bother me, but it seems like he had an out. When the interviewer asked if Jay filled Diana's role, the only thing Robinson needed to say was, yes. But then again, that would probably be dishonest. Whatever, I just thought that part of the interview was interesting. Not flame worthy, just, interesting.

Oh and to end on a positive note I cannot wait to read more about Alan Scott. What could be cooler than a superpowered Ted Turner?

[Mr. Holmes]

Fate's powerful, but not invincible. He can be written in such a way that he's not the plot equivalent of "get out of jail free". Indeed, one of the drawbacks for magical characters is they are both physically vulnerable and it sometimes takes them a lot of time to actually cast a spell.

Young Justice utilized him quite well. He's really powerful and is a game changer, but not quite deus ex machina.

[TF_loki]

Gosh, do I want to buy the first issue just to see Robinson introduce some characters with historic links just so he can kill them off in that same issue?

Alternatively, Gosh do you want to read a nu52 comic that sets out it's back story properly, delivers action, introduces characters (and I loved that whole bit with Jay & Joan...so much going on in that conversation) and has beautiful art from the equally beautiful Nicola scott.....such a tough question!?!?!

Will this be Cry for Justice: Earth-2?

(By the way, I've never read CfJ . . . I've just heard so many awful things about it that I've been afraid to spend my $'s on the tpb, especially since I hadn't read anything of Robinson's that I truly enjoyed in the past couple of years.)

I've read James Robinson stuff I loved and James Robinson stuff I loathed. All I do is sell/burn/crucify/salt-the-earth-against-evil with the bad stuff and wipe it from my mind. Good stuff lasts, trash is forgotten....

[MajorHoy]

I am not trying to start anything, but did Robinson say that the Trinity for Earth 2 is Superman, Batman and Green Lantern? Even with Jay's connection to a mythological god from Diana's pantheon, he is still the sci-fi GL of the group?

Maybe I am just over analyzing this interview. It does not really bother me, but it seems like he had an out. When the interviewer asked if Jay filled Diana's role, the only thing Robinson needed to say was, yes. But then again, that would probably be dishonest. Whatever, I just thought that part of the interview was interesting. Not flame worthy, just, interesting.

Oh and to end on a positive note I cannot wait to read more about Alan Scott. What could be cooler than a superpowered Ted Turner?

As I've said in many other threads, I believe Robinson said his three for Earth 2 were Jay (GA Flash), Alan (GA Lantern) and Al Pratt (GA Atom).

Pre-DCnU, the big three for the JSA had become Jay, Alan, and Ted Grant (GA Wildcat).

I'm not sure where you'd be getting Superman, Batman and Green Lantern from, except maybe those are the three main DCnU Earth characters that have their own "family" of related titles.

[slvn]

I though this part was interesting:

"Alan Scott will step up and become, in his own way, the Superman of Earth 2 in terms of his power and in terms of the fact that he is going to stand and watch over the planet in Superman's name."

I wonder if Alan's origin will tie into the Superman mythos in something like the way Jay's ties into the Wonder Woman ethos. For example, maybe on this earth the GL ring is made of kryptonite. Robinson did say the laws of "science" work differently on Earth 2; maybe green k, instead of or as well as hurting and depowering kryptonians, can actually give powers to humans.

And to complete the pattern, maybe Al will be connected to Batman by having gained powers form being near the tower when Batman blew it up.

Or maybe Hawkgirl, as "world's greatest detective," will have an indirect Batman legacy in some way?



I wonder if there'll be a new Batman. Dick Grayson could be in the picture somewhere--or maybe he's Dick Wayne, Helena's adopted younger brother, in this world. Could be why they were vague about which Wayne was under the cowl: the answer after #1 is different form the answer in #1.

Even with Jay's connection to a mythological god from Diana's pantheon, he is still the sci-fi GL of the group?

No--I think when Robinson says Jay's origins "mirrors as a mythical version, the science fiction origin of ... Hal Jordan," he just means that they both get their powers from mysterious "aliens" (if a god counts as an alien) who sort of "crash land" from out of nowhere. He's not saying that Jay is going to be a sci-fi character or a GL.

[Roland Gunner]

Young Justice utilized him quite well. He's really powerful and is a game changer, but not quite deus ex machina.

Yeah, YJ does have a good interpretation of Fate. Taking up the helmet is such a sacrifice that you only take it on in dire emergencies and then everyone tries to get it back off.

[Schnitzy Pretzelpants]

I though this part was interesting:

"Alan Scott will step up and become, in his own way, the Superman of Earth 2 in terms of his power and in terms of the fact that he is going to stand and watch over the planet in Superman's name."

I wonder if Alan's origin will tie into the Superman mythos in something like the way Jay's ties into the Wonder Woman ethos. For example, maybe on this earth the GL ring is made of kryptonite. Robinson did say the laws of "science" work differently on Earth 2; maybe green k, instead of or as well as hurting and depowering kryptonians, can actually give powers to humans.

I doubt, and kind of hope that isn’t what he means about Alan.

I think Robinson just means that in the absence of a Superman, Jay will become the de facto ‘face’ of the metahuman community, and be the powerhouse of the lot of them.

It’s basically the same thing that Robinson did with him in Golden Age. Since the original Crisis removed the GA Superman, when Robinson wrote Golden Age he sort of turned Alan into the Golden Age powerhouse and elder statesman for the heroes, and the one guy who was more boy scout than the rest of them.

[Cavemold]

So Alan going to be a big time hero:)!! Sweet

[semicyon]

Huh. Was anyone really surprised by the death of Superman, Wonder Woman, and Batman? I like the story but Robinson is patting himself a bit too hard on the back about his verbal sophistication... I assumed that when he talked about them being an inspiration, the easiest way to do that is if they died in service to the world. I was hoping that this time around the JSA would include active participation by the Trinity, which has never really been the case in any ongoing fashion. Oh, well. Not a criticism, at all, just that it wasn't a surprise to me that the Earth 2 trinity were dead.

With the formal connection between Flash and Mercury, I am eager to find out what's the new origin of the Green Lantern and what powers, if any, Al Pratt will have as the Atom.
I still miss the Earth-2 from the JSA/JLA team-ups but this is its own world that I am interested in finding out more about.

[slvn]

I doubt, and kind of hope that isn’t what he means about Alan.

I think Robinson just means that in the absence of a Superman, Jay will become the de facto ‘face’ of the metahuman community, and be the powerhouse of the lot of them.

Oh, I definitely think he means that--I was just thinking that he might also be hinting at something more.

My idea is definitely a longshot--but the solicit for #3 does promise a GL origin like none before. I wouldn't like Alan to have a Kryptonian connection if Superman were still around. since it would tend to make Alan a secondary character. But with Clark gone, as long as they're not calling Alan "Super-Green Lantern" and plastering a big green S on his chest, I think a Kryptonite power ring could be OK; it could cement Alan's position as the new "face" and powerhouse. Maybe in the Earth Two universe there are no Guardians, and the Green Lantern Corps was a long forgotten project of Krypton--and a little more than five years ago, Superman came across the last Kryptonian power ring and programmed it to find a worthy successor as protector of earth if he ever died. Something like that?

[smokeysabear]

Huh. Was anyone really surprised by the death of Superman, Wonder Woman, and Batman? I like the story but Robinson is patting himself a bit too hard on the back about his verbal sophistication... I assumed that when he talked about them being an inspiration, the easiest way to do that is if they died in service to the world. I was hoping that this time around the JSA would include active participation by the Trinity, which has never really been the case in any ongoing fashion. Oh, well. Not a criticism, at all, just that it wasn't a surprise to me that the Earth 2 trinity were dead.

With the formal connection between Flash and Mercury, I am eager to find out what's the new origin of the Green Lantern and what powers, if any, Al Pratt will have as the Atom.
I still miss the Earth-2 from the JSA/JLA team-ups but this is its own world that I am interested in finding out more about.

I'm with you honestly, from the minute I saw the solicits and read the interviews, I figured they would remove the Trinity in the first issue. For as much congratulations as he is giving himself, I thought it was fairly easy to see that one coming.

I really liked the issue though. As somebody who hasn't read much JSA, I'm excited to follow this book. It's just so different from anything I'm reading now, or have read in the past. I just recently finished the entire "52" run, and that really sparked my interest in some of the more obscure DC characters.

[gwangung]

Oh, I definitely think he means that--I was just thinking that he might also be hinting at something more.

My idea is definitely a longshot--but the solicit for #3 does promise a GL origin like none before. I wouldn't like Alan to have a Kryptonian connection if Superman were still around. since it would tend to make Alan a secondary character. But with Clark gone, as long as they're not calling Alan "Super-Green Lantern" and plastering a big green S on his chest, I think a Kryptonite power ring could be OK; it could cement Alan's position as the new "face" and powerhouse. Maybe in the Earth Two universe there are no Guardians, and the Green Lantern Corps was a long forgotten project of Krypton--and a little more than five years ago, Superman came across the last Kryptonian power ring and programmed it to find a worthy successor as protector of earth if he ever died. Something like that?

What would be cool would be for Alan to forge something out of an alien power source to make himself Green Lantern.

[gwangung]

I'm with you honestly, from the minute I saw the solicits and read the interviews, I figured they would remove the Trinity in the first issue. For as much congratulations as he is giving himself, I thought it was fairly easy to see that one coming.

Yet, many fans seemed to have convinced themselves that this was another Trinity-dominated book.

[Rakzo]

Can't wait to see more of these new interpretations of the Golden Age heroes, hopefully Robinson can fix Mister Terrific.