Why can't Nolan's Batman be used in a JLA movie?

[Zeeguy91]

I honestly don't get why Nolan's Batman can't be brought into a Justice League movie. Yeah, he's grounded in realism and people say Nolan's Batman couldn't fit into the larger DCU with all of the fantastical characters like Superman, but...isn't it that way in the comics? To me, one of the beauties of the DCU has always been that a "low" fantasy character like Batman has been allowed to coexist with "high" fantasy characters like Superman and GL. IMO, you'd just need to tone down some of those "high-fantasy" elements for a movie. One of Green Lantern's weaknesses was that it appeared too cartoonish with all the CGI utilized. I think that could have been fixed if they had changed that by having the Guardians be portrayed by live actors, not done by CGI and had some of the Oan environment actually be real sets, not CGI constructed landscapes. I mean, even in the comics, when a GL appears before the Guardians, they appear in a closed metallic "board-room", not a mountain citadel. It appears that Marvel tends to tone down their fantastical elements from the comics, while DC believes that they should make them more grandiose (at least with GL).

I think if Man of Steel is as good as I hope (knock on wood), then DC should really consider combining Nolan's Batman with Nolan and Snyder's Superman. Potential JLA and World's Finest movies would be incredible.

What do you guys think? Can't we use Nolan's Batman in a JLA or World's Finest movie?

P.S. I don't know if there's thread on this topic already. sorry if there is.

[Lord Bravery]

Because Nolan's Batman would be useless. He isn't a genius in multiple fields like he is in the comics, in fact, he's pretty stupid and naive. And he fights like a drunken uncle at a wedding.

Also because it's super serious and gritty and outlandish superheroes are stupid!

[batGRRRl4ever]

Nolan's Batman is so detestably grounded in "realness" that not even Robin or Batgirl are allowed to exist in this universe, let alone a kryptonian powerhouse or a warrior Amazon Princess who is thousands of years old. That's why the Batman movies are going to be almost immediately rebooted, to create a version of Batman where creatures like Clayface and superheroes like the Flash can believably exist. The "realness" factor, while greatly loved by Nolan's fans, is this Batman franchises greatest weakness. It gives NO room for a universe outside of Bruce Wayne, period.

[MajorHoy]

Is Batman maybe licensed to a different studio / production company when it comes to movies?

[Lord Bravery]

No it's all under WB.

[Mr. Holmes]

This is why.

[The Animal Man]

No it's all under WB.

Unlike Marvel who has different franchise movie rights owned by several different companies.....Jeez is that confusing

[The Animal Man]

Nolan's Batman is so detestably grounded in "realness" that not even Robin or Batgirl are allowed to exist in this universe, let alone a kryptonian powerhouse or a warrior Amazon Princess who is thousands of years old. That's why the Batman movies are going to be almost immediately rebooted, to create a version of Batman where creatures like Clayface and superheroes like the Flash can believably exist. The "realness" factor, while greatly loved by Nolan's fans, is this Batman franchises greatest weakness. It gives NO room for a universe outside of Bruce Wayne, period.

enough said! people always talk about how The Nolan Batman movies are the best but honestly they really limit the storytelling and what villains you can use characters like Clayface Man-Bat Poison Ivy Killer Croc Can't be used without people whining about it being too goofy and not realistic

Christopher Nolan Ruined Batman he made him into a simple minded brute who is in no way a detective and the villains always seem to be one step ahead of him......

[Rafa]

enough said! people always talk about how The Nolan Batman movies are the best but honestly they really limit the storytelling and what villains you can use characters like Clayface Man-Bat Poison Ivy Killer Croc Can't be used without people whining about it being too goofy and not realistic

Christopher Nolan Ruined Batman he made him into a simple minded brute who is in no way a detective and the villains always seem to be one step ahead of him......

Agreed. I'm tired of being shunned when mentioning something like this.

[Ian Pressman]

enough said! people always talk about how The Nolan Batman movies are the best but honestly they really limit the storytelling and what villains you can use characters like Clayface Man-Bat Poison Ivy Killer Croc Can't be used without people whining about it being too goofy and not realistic

Christopher Nolan Ruined Batman he made him into a simple minded brute who is in no way a detective and the villains always seem to be one step ahead of him......

He was asking why Nolan's Batman wouldn't work in a JLA movie, not for arbitrary opinions on character direction, and vitriolic criticism of the director. You realize that Clayface and Ivy would have been equally stupid in the movies that Burton directed, yes? By the parameters you're setting, then clearly, the best director of Batman films thus far has been Joel Schumacher.

[Dr. Hurt]

Whatever dude. You like what you like, i like what i like. I wont waste anymore of my time when you keep talking about a movie you havent seen and making assumptions based on trailers.

I had fun watching the Avengers. I liked the coexistence and cooperation of my favourite characters that i already know from other movies. You dont, good for you.

I dont see how Marvel's plan is so difficult to grasp. If anything it's simpler than having a different Batman in JL and his own movies. Hell, the JL movie they were about to make had Ras Al Ghul and Talia. I cant imagine how confused people would be. "What, Ras is immortal, doesnt dress like a ninja anymore and has a daughter?"

And to corrent my mistake:

Yo I don't know if you noticed but these are in fact two completely different motivations, good job there.

That's true. He just wants to feed his ego by taking over the earth. He's done trying to impress Odin or win the thrown. His scheme was exposed in Thor. This is just him moving on.

Sorry for messing it up before.

[Lancerman]

Nolan's Batman is so detestably grounded in "realness" that not even Robin or Batgirl are allowed to exist in this universe, let alone a kryptonian powerhouse or a warrior Amazon Princess who is thousands of years old. That's why the Batman movies are going to be almost immediately rebooted, to create a version of Batman where creatures like Clayface and superheroes like the Flash can believably exist. The "realness" factor, while greatly loved by Nolan's fans, is this Batman franchises greatest weakness. It gives NO room for a universe outside of Bruce Wayne, period.

Thats not a weakness.

[Vakanai]

Nolan's Batman is so detestably grounded in "realness" that not even Robin or Batgirl are allowed to exist in this universe, let alone a kryptonian powerhouse or a warrior Amazon Princess who is thousands of years old. That's why the Batman movies are going to be almost immediately rebooted, to create a version of Batman where creatures like Clayface and superheroes like the Flash can believably exist. The "realness" factor, while greatly loved by Nolan's fans, is this Batman franchises greatest weakness. It gives NO room for a universe outside of Bruce Wayne, period.

Considering I prefer superheroes a bit more insular in movies, this is a plus in my book...

[Hamdinger]

Nolan's Batman is so detestably grounded in "realness" that not even Robin or Batgirl are allowed to exist in this universe, let alone a kryptonian powerhouse or a warrior Amazon Princess who is thousands of years old. That's why the Batman movies are going to be almost immediately rebooted, to create a version of Batman where creatures like Clayface and superheroes like the Flash can believably exist. The "realness" factor, while greatly loved by Nolan's fans, is this Batman franchises greatest weakness. It gives NO room for a universe outside of Bruce Wayne, period.

I never got the "realness" vibe from Nolan's movies. Batman freakin flies through Gotham, does action movie physics (like surviving fall that would kill a human being if it were real), uses tons of tech that is science fiction, some tech that doesn't even make sense like mobile phone sonar, wtf, and displays all the fighting skills of a boxer who never could make it to the pros. The Daniel Craig James Bond or the Bourne Identity movies displayed way more fighting skills that Nolan's Bats and they didn't have ninja training.

So are these Nolan movies realistic? Not at all but instead these movies are rooted in grim & gritty character development not realism. Don't get me wrong I love the Nolan Batman flicks but I never saw them as realistic in any way. It's Batman 89' without the camp and cheese factor.

[ffritts]

I honestly don't get why Nolan's Batman can't be brought into a Justice League movie. Yeah, he's grounded in realism and people say Nolan's Batman couldn't fit into the larger DCU with all of the fantastical characters like Superman, but...isn't it that way in the comics? To me, one of the beauties of the DCU has always been that a "low" fantasy character like Batman has been allowed to coexist with "high" fantasy characters like Superman and GL. IMO, you'd just need to tone down some of those "high-fantasy" elements for a movie. One of Green Lantern's weaknesses was that it appeared too cartoonish with all the CGI utilized. I think that could have been fixed if they had changed that by having the Guardians be portrayed by live actors, not done by CGI and had some of the Oan environment actually be real sets, not CGI constructed landscapes. I mean, even in the comics, when a GL appears before the Guardians, they appear in a closed metallic "board-room", not a mountain citadel. It appears that Marvel tends to tone down their fantastical elements from the comics, while DC believes that they should make them more grandiose (at least with GL).

I think if Man of Steel is as good as I hope (knock on wood), then DC should really consider combining Nolan's Batman with Nolan and Snyder's Superman. Potential JLA and World's Finest movies would be incredible.

What do you guys think? Can't we use Nolan's Batman in a JLA or World's Finest movie?

P.S. I don't know if there's thread on this topic already. sorry if there is.

Because Nolan said "no"

Everyone wants to complain about the realness of it but if you look at the scifi and approach it in a believable way it all could be done. I mean lets be real here. A very small reboot is still going to be grounded.