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    Quote Originally Posted by Khajit View Post
    Any bets on if wolverine points out that it's actually a school, not a wildlife sanctuary, and Cyclops left all the children behind at Utopia so he has no business coming by. Trying to drag the school into the "war" also probably could constitute reckless endangerment.
    Yeah "HI! WOLVERINE! We ran out of meathshields. Where do you keep the students?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by darknessatnoon View Post
    This entire series is premised on Wolverine never getting what he wants.
    although you could argue that he also gets what

    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    They're already in war. Their leader was front line during the whole thing. They had to only hope someone wouldn't show up at their door.
    wolverine, wolverine personal business is no the school business, this was something that was made clear when wolverine introduced the x-force the school, now as headmaster he made the choice to keep the school out, the school is not at war, and as long as there is someone with some sense and who still remembers Charles's dream it should stay that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AcesX1X View Post
    i like that kitty and illyana get to stare each other down in this preview.
    YES.
    I wanna see shared internal thought bubbles: "Bitch."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genesis X View Post
    wolverine, wolverine personal business is no the school business, this was something that was made clear when wolverine introduced the x-force the school, now as headmaster he made the choice to keep the school out, the school is not at war, and as long as there is someone with some sense and who still remembers Charles's dream it should stay that way.
    Thats not how it works.

    He was in the war, and he already used Rachel in his war. He represents the school. They are a battleground. You can't have it both ways. Say "We aren't at war" while the supposed leader is off fighting in it. Wolverine could have stayed home if thats what he wanted.

    You can't play Leader and Solo hero and not expect a crossing over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinRedmond View Post
    Yeah "HI! WOLVERINE! We ran out of meathshields. Where do you keep the students?"
    Yeah really lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by yanapryde View Post
    YES.
    I wanna see shared internal thought bubbles: "Bitch."
    KP's got no leg to stand on here. Magik's pulling one over on the Sorceror Supreme, Pryde is falling for Head Comptroller Bobby Drake's slobby advances.

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    This has gotta be a new low-point for Cyclops, but I think he deserves what he's going through right now. He didn't have to go along with Cap. He didn't have to fight him in AvX #3. He made these decisions and now he has to live with it. I think if he tries to keep Cyclops and his team out of his institute, that would make him a hypocrite. His school was supposed to be a sanctuary and if he denies it to mutants who need it, then he's without excuse. If for no other reason, he should allow Cyclops to stay just so he can be in a place named after his wife. That alone would make this issue worth buying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darknessatnoon View Post
    This entire series is premised on Wolverine never getting what he wants.
    Here's hoping Seraph's Angels give him something he needs (not necessarily wants).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    Thats not how it works.

    He was in the war, and he already used Rachel in his war. He represents the school. They are a battleground. You can't have it both ways. Say "We aren't at war" while the supposed leader is off fighting in it. Wolverine could have stayed home if thats what he wanted.

    You can't play Leader and Solo hero and not expect a crossing over.
    you bet it is, and he only use rachel, because it was their only link to cerebra, and it was more of a necessity than anything else, and I like how you like completely gloss over what I said and the whole issue 5 (I think) where is where genesis is introduced, where is pretty much established that wolverine personal business, stay outside the school, of course cyclops could care less to get kids into war which is why he doesn't even respect the mission statement and has decided to infiltrate the school, quite the villain isn't he?

    Quote Originally Posted by MarvelMaster616 View Post
    This has gotta be a new low-point for Cyclops, but I think he deserves what he's going through right now. He didn't have to go along with Cap. He didn't have to fight him in AvX #3. He made these decisions and now he has to live with it. I think if he tries to keep Cyclops and his team out of his institute, that would make him a hypocrite. His school was supposed to be a sanctuary and if he denies it to mutants who need it, then he's without excuse. If for no other reason, he should allow Cyclops to stay just so he can be in a place named after his wife. That alone would make this issue worth buying.
    exactly, sanctuary where kids doesn't have to become soldiers and be dragged to wars, something the cyclops seems to have everywhere it follows him like a plague, because of his bad decisions
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    An interesting turn of events. I was not expecting Scott et al. to show up at the school. With Magik's teleportation abilities, surely there are better sanctuaries to be found. Is Cyclops just looking for more soldiers? It's telling that the cover to the next issue has Kid Gladiator duking it out against the Avengers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genesis X View Post
    you bet it is, and he only use rachel, because it was their only link to cerebra, and it was more of a necessity than anything else, and I like how you like completely gloss over what I said and the whole issue 5 (I think) where is where genesis is introduced, where is pretty much established that wolverine personal business, stay outside the school, of course cyclops could care less to get kids into war which is why he doesn't even respect the mission statement and has decided to infiltrate the school, quite the villain isn't he?
    I'm sorry, you don't get to have it both ways. He's the headmaster, he can't just say "My personal business is outside the school." Point is, him and Cap tried to use Rachel too, so its not "Personal" anyway. By all accounts, Wolverine declared war on Utopia, and he represents his school. He's already involved others, and should have stayed out if it if he didn't want anything to happen.

    But he tried to stab Hope, and runs away to his school.

    It'd be like if Cyclops showed up at the JGG school and blasted Genesis. Thats a declaration from Utopia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    I'm sorry, you don't get to have it both ways. He's the headmaster, he can't just say "My personal business is outside the school." Point is, him and Cap tried to use Rachel too, so its not "Personal" anyway. By all accounts, Wolverine declared war on Utopia, and he represents his school.

    It'd be like if Cyclops showed up at the JGG school and blasted Genesis. Thats a declaration from Utopia.
    so cyclops is going to attack a whole bunch of students, can't say I'm surprised, and yes a headmaster gets to have it both ways, that's how schools operate, you keep your personal business outside the school grounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genesis X View Post
    so cyclops is going to attack a whole bunch of students, can't say I'm surprised, and yes a headmaster gets to have it both ways, that's how schools operate, you keep your personal business outside the school grounds.
    He's not going to attack the students. He's going to take troops from Wolverine. Everyone knows Cyclops is in the right, and that Wolverine is a gene-traitor. I bet Idie will stay, though. She's already betrayed Hope once. Why not go for broke?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genesis X View Post
    so cyclops is going to attack a whole bunch of students, can't say I'm surprised, and yes a headmaster gets to have it both ways, that's how schools operate, you keep your personal business outside the school grounds.
    Wolverine invaded Utopia, attempted to kill Hope, and is now back at his school. Thus, the school is now involved. For all Scott knows, he could still be trying to track her.

    What part of that doesn't make sense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by darknessatnoon View Post
    He's not going to attack the students. He's going to take troops from Wolverine. Everyone knows Cyclops is in the right, and that Wolverine is a gene-traitor. I bet Idie will stay, though. She's already betrayed Hope once. Why not go for broke?
    I know the punch line is somewhere in here but I can't see it. Anyways you said troops, and I ask, what troops? like seriously, they are no soldiers, they are teacher and students. I mean seriously the x-men who are doing the best are the ones that ditched utopia, like laura for example
    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    Wolverine invaded Utopia, attempted to kill Hope, and is now back at his school. Thus, the school is now involved. For all Scott knows, he could still be trying to track her.

    What part of that doesn't make sense?
    except no, it is obvious that scott is not there to fight but look for a place to hide and probably for reinforcements, and second, tell me a soldier takes a red cross helicopter, is it moral to attack him? No unless you are some kind of monster, so cyclops attacking wolverine (and the school by proxy) would be one of his most heinous acts.
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