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    Quote Originally Posted by teddyeatsyourface View Post
    Wolverine will Genesis at the first sign of threat. The same situation with Hope.
    What sign of a threat Hope has only defended herself without leaving any lasting harm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMBMOOL View Post
    Yeah, Wolverine is only killing Hope to prevent disaster because he knows that both Scott and Steve would never dealt the final blow when it came right down to it.
    How does he KNOW that? What evidence does he have to base off of? He was willing to murder a child who did nothing with no evidence that she will do anything. Stabbing should not be he first option for wolverine if ANY of his growth over the last few years meant a damn thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DexterSinister View Post
    What sign of a threat Hope has only defended herself without leaving any lasting harm.
    You mean the sign of the cosmic turkey bird coming to takeover hope? Also you might want to read AvX #0. I'd say she left some lasting harm
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    Quote Originally Posted by teddyeatsyourface View Post
    You mean the sign of the cosmic turkey bird coming to takeover hope? Also you might want to read AvX #0. I'd say she left some lasting harm
    What lasting harm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDtown View Post
    Its called killing for the greater good, (Killing Hope to save all the other children), and its totally in-character and makes sense for Wolverine. He's not a hypocrite, Wolverine has never claimed to be above that, even when he made the school, he still had X-force and he was upfront about that fact.

    He's never been against killing kids if it meant saving everyone else, the kid apocalypse saga proves that, even though he hesitated, he agreed with Fantomex that killing him was the right move.

    Just because you don't like what he's doing doesn't mean he's a hypocrite.
    You misunderstand. I never called him a hypocrite. A hypocrite has morals to betray. Wolverine just wants to kill people whenever he feels like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExodusCloak View Post
    Are you trying to say it's okay because they're murdering dangerous mutants but it's not okay if they're murdering dangeous humans? BTW they mixed it up with the Purifiers too. It was in that Fear Itself mini.
    Yes I am because I can buy Dark Angel, Dark Beast, or Sinister Iceman being a threat to the likes of Wolverine and Deadpool but fanatics like the purifiers who currently dont haved Bastion or anyone supplying them future tech cant even put a dent in them and should be tooken down accordingly.

    But X-Force is a morally grey unit, as long as they keep doing something for the safety of the world I have no problem with their actions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfirexl View Post
    Yes I am because I can buy Dark Angel, Dark Beast, or Sinister Iceman being a threat to the likes of Wolverine and Deadpool but fanatics like the purifiers who currently dont haved Bastion or anyone supplying them future tech cant even put a dent in them and should be tooken down accordingly.

    But X-Force is a morally grey unit, as long as they keep doing something for the safety of the world I have no problem with their actions.
    They had Bastion during Scott's X Force. And the Leper Queen. And Donald Pierce. And Graydon Creed. And Cameron Hodge. And techno organic tech. And they had just destroyed an Alaskan town.

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    Hope's not a kid
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabare View Post
    Hope's not a kid
    Hope is the same age as everyone to young to fight the Avengers and probably younger than half those Logan didn't want fighting when the sentinel attacked Utopia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teddyeatsyourface View Post
    There was only one planet confirmed to be taken by the phoenix. Unless there has been new information from secret avengers?

    Obviously the Phoenix Force doesn't need a host to kill/rebirth things, but do you honestly believe letting another human become the phoenix is a good idea? Especially Hope of all people.
    Getting the Pf under the control of a strong personality is always a good idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quillero View Post
    What lasting harm?
    Nova has some singed buttocks that need some lotioning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drax1981 View Post
    Wolverine just wants to kill people whenever he feels like it.
    That's because he's not a hero, he's an anti-hero that can do whatever he wants.

    Cyclops is the wannabe hero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AcesX1X View Post
    that is canon. he tried to blow up all the kids on utopia during schism.
    ...and by your same logic of what is 'canon', then Namor is a Nazi?

    Anyway isn't Wolverine in fact saving the children of the world by being the only one with the balls to make the tough decision of taking out Hope. Plus why would he want the Utopia kids at the school when they've been trained and indoctornated by Cyclops' array of villans and psyhcopaths?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DexterSinister View Post
    Hope is the same age as everyone to young to fight the Avengers and probably younger than half those Logan didn't want fighting when the sentinel attacked Utopia.
    She's a time travel, pheonix host character. Her age is not the same as the others.
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    From my point of view, the Avengers, Team Cyclops, and Team Wolverine are all assholes. The only hero here is Hope. I don't want Hope to die. I like Hope. I'm just waiting for Cable to show up and kick everyone's ass. Cable will be more powerful now. Hope cured him of that virus. I'm just interested to see what happens to Hope, and what Cable will do. It will also be interesting to see what the Scarlet Witch does, and if anyone jumps ship to a different side of the X-Men. I'd like to see the Uncanny X-Men's main roster get changed up a bit. The Uncanny roster as a whole has been anything but uncanny for me lately. I do hope (pun lol) that Hope & Cable stick around on one of the X-Men books as part of a main roster. Uncanny would be awsome if they kept Hope, and added Cable to their ranks.

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