Invincible Iron Man #516 *Spoilers*

[CTpitch]

The more I think about it, the more I'll like Stane becoming the "next" Iron Man.

But I could imagine that all the "old-school" purist Iron Man fans will hate it.

I wouldn't mind Zeke becoming the new Iron man he is kind of a douche... but so is Tony

[Mlcboarder]

I really enjoyed the scene with Tony taking down Crimson Dynamo and Firebrand, but then his armor being "revoked" at the worst time, and Detroit Steel coming in to take credit for the work.

Watching Stane and Sasha talk to each other is interesting too. Stane kept saying Mandarin is controlling him, but he believes its not his rings but something else? Any ideas of what that could be?

[CTpitch]

I really enjoyed the scene with Tony taking down Crimson Dynamo and Firebrand, but then his armor being "revoked" at the worst time, and Detroit Steel coming in to take credit for the work.

Watching Stane and Sasha talk to each other is interesting too. Stane kept saying Mandarin is controlling him, but he believes its not his rings but something else? Any ideas of what that could be?

maybe something in his chest along with the bomb?

[Monty_Cristo]

The more I think about it, the more I'll like Stane becoming the "next" Iron Man.

But I could imagine that all the "old-school" purist Iron Man fans will hate it.

i wouldn't because i know it won't last (Marvel needs Tony to make money). and zeke is kind of Stark's legacy anyways. he's unlikely to have children. and Arno won't be available of a good long while.

[Monty_Cristo]

Anyone have an idea as to what the point of Crimson Dynamo and Firebrand attacking at the beginning was? They're operatives of the Hammer/Stane/Mandarin team, and then Hammer arrested them - so was it just another effort to make Iron Man look bad in public (the way the place was destroyed)?

you got it on the first try. remeber the "after party" scene where they are congratulating Sasha on the mission? person asked where Dynamo and Firebrand were. she said that they were relaxing in another room. then she made that crack about the justice system. this was all a staged attack to market Detroit Steel.

[Wren]

I wouldn't mind Zeke becoming the new Iron man he is kind of a douche... but so is Tony

Uh, I think Tony draws the line at being a terrorist who kills children. Stane's *motivations* are evil and self-serving, Tony's never have been. Mandarine is beating on Stane doesn't make him sympathetic.

Detroit Steele I can kind of see as a legit IM replacement... Stane? Never.

I'm liking this arc because the Tony torture makes it easy to root for his team. And I wouldn't mind a Dark Reign-style Stane takeover, but I'll be looking forward to the triumphant return where all these guys get the crap beaten out of them.

[StoneGold]

Something tells me if Zeke is in the armor, it's very storyline-based as opposed to changing the whole book. As in Zeke gets to wear the big boy pants for the duration of the storyline, as opposed to being Bucky Cap.

[Jake Fury]

you got it on the first try. remeber the "after party" scene where they are congratulating Sasha on the mission? person asked where Dynamo and Firebrand were. she said that they were relaxing in another room. then she made that crack about the justice system. this was all a staged attack to market Detroit Steel.

Didn't they also mention that the attack weakened the US economy due to Charlotte supposedly being a huge financial hub? (Wall ST, North Carolina?)

[Monty_Cristo]

Something tells me if Zeke is in the armor, it's very storyline-based as opposed to changing the whole book. As in Zeke gets to wear the big boy pants for the duration of the storyline, as opposed to being Bucky Cap.

so they'd be pulling a Tanarus.

[Monty_Cristo]

Uh, I think Tony draws the line at being a terrorist who kills children. Stane's *motivations* are evil and self-serving, Tony's never have been. Mandarine is beating on Stane doesn't make him sympathetic.

Detroit Steele I can kind of see as a legit IM replacement... Stane? Never.

I'm liking this arc because the Tony torture makes it easy to root for his team. And I wouldn't mind a Dark Reign-style Stane takeover, but I'll be looking forward to the triumphant return where all these guys get the crap beaten out of them.

do you remember Detroit Steele's motives?

[Nitz the Bloody]

Something tells me if Zeke is in the armor, it's very storyline-based as opposed to changing the whole book. As in Zeke gets to wear the big boy pants for the duration of the storyline, as opposed to being Bucky Cap.

If IM2.0 is Zeke, then yeah, I definitely can't see it going beyond this arc. Ezekiel's sins are so many and so unforgivable that he can't be redeemed. Bucky, at least, was brainwashed into being the Winter Soldier, so he can't be held accountable for his actions (even if the bunch of xenophobic sheep that are the MU Public did so). Zeke willingly and gleefully sponsored terrorists who attacked innocent civilians, and did so for a long time. That's well beyond the anti-hero tragic past and into Complete Monster territory.

The only way Ezekiel could even begin to tip the scales is with a heroic sacrifice. To do otherwise would be like trying to make Sabretooth into an X-Man. Most of us remember how well that went...

[Monty_Cristo]

If IM2.0 is Zeke, then yeah, I definitely can't see it going beyond this arc. Ezekiel's sins are so many and so unforgivable that he can't be redeemed.

Norman Osborn recently held political office. Loki was offered Avengers membership.

[Cavemold]

Norman Osborn recently held political office. Loki was offered Avengers membership.

Say what?????

[Monty_Cristo]

Say what?????

Henry Pym asked him to join. Loki told him that he was crazy.

[themortalfist]

So, do we really think, after Fraction leaves the title once he wraps up this awesome storyline, that the next Iron Man writer won't have Tony Stark to push around? there really isn't going to be a "next" Iron Man, right? I mean, just from a cynical business perspective, pretty sure Disney wouldn't like that!