Ultimately Off-Topic VI: Another Star Trek Reference

[thecrimson]

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I actually really enjoy the campaign for the Modern Warfare series. It's a cool story.

So do I. :D

And going back to my post from yesterday, I put more importance on the gameplay over graphics. It's why I still play things like the original Age of Empires (with the Rise of Rome expansion pack) and Mario Kart 64 (because I don't like the handling of the new karts, especially in Battle Mode).

I place graphics and gameplay side by side. Both are equal in my eyes.

Also:
http://nebezial.deviantart.com/art/w...2F9888339&qo=8

I loved his art on Witchblade.

And Wyo, I agree with everything Plawsky has said. EVERYTHING :p.

[Samorai_black]

Balfro, Wolverine12 and others, this is what you should be reading.

Wonder Woman is a really good book, the only part that sucks for me is I have to wait a month for when the price drops on comixology. I really dont want to see her interact with "proper" superheroes like Supes, Bats, and Flash in her book anytime soon.

Anyone else thing First X-Men sounds terrible?

As a random non-616 connected story it sounds cool but if its part of the 616 seems like another page of confuesion for the X-books. Either way I dont care and wont be reading it

I'm sorry, but saying Goldeneye has bad graphics is bull.

While I dont agree with Plawsky's overall views on this topic I have to say Golden Eye had really bad graphics. I thougth this as a 7 year old. The game is great but the look of it was nasty. I aslo agree that there are a few shooter games that are pretty much the same thing but not all of them and I feel many of them borrow from eachother which makes it worse.

So I saw a thread about this over on the X-forums and it made me wonder...

If you could have any Ultimate story-arc be made into an animated feature-length movie, akin to those good ones DC's known for, which arc would you choose?

Well for one they would have to be done as close as the comic as possible, Ultimates movie was so bad. So that said I would want a well done Ultimates volume 1, Ultimatum(which could be done right) so it would be more then a 10 minute movie, Ultimate Comics: Ultimates Volume 1 are the big ones I would want to see right away. I dont really care to see any Peter Spider-man but a Miles story would be pretty good.

[thecrimson]

Samorai, could you list elements that some shooters borrow from each other (and don't say 'they feature some of the same guns')?

Avengers Dethrones Dark Knight

[Balfro]

So I saw a thread about this over on the X-forums and it made me wonder...

If you could have any Ultimate story-arc be made into an animated feature-length movie, akin to those good ones DC's known for, which arc would you choose?

This should be it's own thread

Ultimate Knights

[thecrimson]

This should be it's own thread

Ultimate Knights

I guess I'll be the first to comment.

I would watch that.

[Wolverine12]

So I saw a thread about this over on the X-forums and it made me wonder...

If you could have any Ultimate story-arc be made into an animated feature-length movie, akin to those good ones DC's known for, which arc would you choose?

The Tomorrow People or Ultimate War would be my first 2 choices. Then Return of the King and Return to Weapon X.

[thecrimson]

The Tomorrow People or Ultimate War would be my first 2 choices. Then Return of the King and Return to Weapon X.

I second this.

[Drz]

Ultimate War was actually planned, but they scrapped it. I wish Disney would do 3 DTVs a year like WB.

[thecrimson]

Ultimate War was actually planned, but they scrapped it. I wish Disney would do 3 DTVs a year like WB.

Why did they scrap it?

[wyokid]

So I saw a thread about this over on the X-forums and it made me wonder...

If you could have any Ultimate story-arc be made into an animated feature-length movie, akin to those good ones DC's known for, which arc would you choose?

[Drz]

Why did they scrap it?

They chose to do Hulk vs.

[MarvelMaster616]

Ultimate War was actually planned, but they scrapped it. I wish Disney would do 3 DTVs a year like WB.

This is what confuses me. Near as I can tell, Planet Hulk and the Hulk vs. titles were a success. So were the two Ultimate Avengers features. Yet for some reason, Marvel decided to scrap it's animated DVD features. In that time DC has continued to hit home runs with Justice League Doom and the Batman/Superman features. I really don't get why Marvel isn't trying to expand this market when DC is clearly putting a lot of resources into it. They've been able to sink resources into their cartoons so I really don't know what excuse they have, but I don't think it's a very good one.

[wyokid]

So what's everybody's top five today?

5. Avengers vs. X-Men #4
4. Daredevil #13
3. Saga #3
2. John Carter: Gods of Mars #3
1. Adventure Time #4

[RockyBanks]

So what's everybody's top five today?

I've only got four this week.

4. Justice League #9
3. AVX: VS #2
2. Daredevil #13
1. Avengers vs. X-Men #4

I swore I wasn't gonna buy AVX, but I borrowed the first three issues from a friend and was hooked.

I'm buying AVX: VS digitally, so I'll be able to read it today. The rest will have to wait until I can get to my LCS this weekend.

[Plawsky]

But that's what most people talk about when they talk about gameplay. They are separate from the audio and visual aspects.

What I was talking about is more how the two work together. I suppose "gameplay" might not have been the best term to use. But basically, both elements have to be there for me to enjoy a game. If the graphics don't look good (or, rather, appropriate), then it takes away from the enjoyability of the gameplay. Skyward Sword was a good example of this. The game was still great, but I found myself frustrated that it didn't look better. But I know that's a limitation of the Wii, so I didn't mind too much.

In all these examples, if the games played the same I'd argue they would be good games. You could argue the graphics might be inappropriate for them but they wouldn't be bad games.

Yeah, your mileage may vary on that. But I can definitely say I wouldn't enjoy a new Call of Duty game if the graphics weren't good.

And going back to your previous discussion with wyo about CoD cel-shading changing the gameplay. It wouldn't. The things concerning the gameplay would remain the same. Such as the gun mechanics (rate of fire, recoil, damage done, reload time, modifications you can make to them etc.), the health mechanics, any cover mechanics and things like the number of weapons you can carry.

I know the gameplay would stay the same, but it wouldn't be a Call of Duty game anymore. It would just be a different FPS. That was my point, the graphics would go against what the franchise is.

I feel many of them borrow from eachother which makes it worse.

See, this doesn't really bother me. I think this kind of stuff is necessary for healthy competition. The problem is when a new game takes an idea from another but doesn't make it unique. If it wasn't for borrowing from other games, Mario would be the only character we could platform with.