Teen Titans Annual #1 Discussion

[Shurato2099]

I don't understand why people only give 2 ideas to Artemis' fate: she either joins the Titans/Ravagers or she dies. That's cynical to the point where you don't even want to use your brain to think of the possibilities. Maybe she doesn't want to do the hero thing and goes back to being pre-Med. She could appear down the line. Since Lobdell, Mackie and DeFalco were Marvel guys, they weren't ever a part of the Teen Titans bloodbaths. There may be deaths in the culling, but who says it can't be the red shirts.

Nobody, and neither did I. All I said was not to get too attached, due to the implied kill-fest and the fact that the character doesn't seem to be mentioned in any of the solicits coming out of the crossover. In a darkened DCnU with an crossover like this one, character death (likely to underscore the severity of the situation) is pretty low hanging fruit. Coming out of the Culling, current evidence would suggest that she's either dead (killed either in the culling or the inevitable escape) or inactive for some other reason (survived but not appearing prominently after the crossoever).

[Mr. Holmes]

This does look like an improvement from the last two issues of Teen Titans.

[DarkKnghtJared]

[QUOTE=Flashpoint;15077846]Booth's original ideas for TT costumes we've actually never seen.

Booth actually posted one of his initial Red Robin ideas on his blog fairly recently:

Bizarre characterizations. Garish costumes. Uninspired villains. Thanks, but I'll pass.

I completely disagree. To me, this is like a strong blend of the characterization and drama of the Wolfman/Perez Titans and the comedy of the 90s Young Justice.

[Outside_85]

Nobody, and neither did I. All I said was not to get too attached, due to the implied kill-fest and the fact that the character doesn't seem to be mentioned in any of the solicits coming out of the crossover. In a darkened DCnU with an crossover like this one, character death (likely to underscore the severity of the situation) is pretty low hanging fruit. Coming out of the Culling, current evidence would suggest that she's either dead (killed either in the culling or the inevitable escape) or inactive for some other reason (survived but not appearing prominently after the crossoever).

Writers have been killing characters since Crisis on Infinite Earths in some misconception that killing characters was what made the whole thing matter.

I completely disagree. To me, this is like a strong blend of the characterization and drama of the Wolfman/Perez Titans and the comedy of the 90s Young Justice.

Two things that mesh about as well as Christian Bales Batman and Adam West's.

[CagedLeo730]

Nobody, and neither did I. All I said was not to get too attached, due to the implied kill-fest and the fact that the character doesn't seem to be mentioned in any of the solicits coming out of the crossover. In a darkened DCnU with an crossover like this one, character death (likely to underscore the severity of the situation) is pretty low hanging fruit. Coming out of the Culling, current evidence would suggest that she's either dead (killed either in the culling or the inevitable escape) or inactive for some other reason (survived but not appearing prominently after the crossoever).

I wasn't attacking you personally because you weren't the only one with that mindset.
DC has been dark since Identity Crisis so this doesn't appear any different to me than usual. You can say that it happens (Geoff Johns in Aquaman) but you can't act like it's a basic rule of this new universe. If it does come to pass, that'll be a black mark agains the ex-Marvel trio. They'll lose sales for being predictable.

[Rud]

I still totally dig the Tron suits.

[DarkKnghtJared]

Two things that mesh about as well as Christian Bales Batman and Adam West's.

Morrison's shown that isn't as hard to imagine as you say it is.

[Theozilla]

My point exactly; Party A is angry at Party B for stealing its ideas.

But Suzanne Collins had not even read or seen Battle Royale before writing The Hunger Games. And Koushun Takami has not accused Suzanne Collins of stealing his ideas, all he has said on the the matter is that appreciated fans "standing up" for his book, but stated that he thinks "every novel has something to offer," and that if "readers find value in either book, that's all an author can ask for."

[Outside_85]

Morrison's shown that isn't as hard to imagine as you say it is.

Morrison isn't writing this book, if he was, it would be awesome in the long run.

[Shurato2099]

Writers have been killing characters since Crisis on Infinite Earths in some misconception that killing characters was what made the whole thing matter.

Yep, low hanging fruit ... like almost dragging the ground.

[Shurato2099]

I wasn't attacking you personally because you weren't the only one with that mindset.
DC has been dark since Identity Crisis so this doesn't appear any different to me than usual. You can say that it happens (Geoff Johns in Aquaman) but you can't act like it's a basic rule of this new universe. If it does come to pass, that'll be a black mark agains the ex-Marvel trio. They'll lose sales for being predictable.

I'm not saying that it is a basic rule of this universe, I'm saying that with a setup like the Culling it's a safe bet that -somebody- is dying and the odds aren't too bad that a newly introduced but recognizable character is going to have the big, polarizing death scene.

[vampiric_cannibal]

Artemis don't look very non-white. She's Mia Dearden. Calling it. Also calling she'll survive the Culling and having a role in a mini or ongoing.

[JasonTodd428]

This looks better than the last couple of TT issues but I'm still not sold on it or the overall crossover. I enjoyed TT at the start but it's taking Tim in a direction that I'm not liking. Because of that TT is in a downward spiral for me right now and "The Culling" is going to make or break this book for me personally. If the crossover is entertaining and Tim stops acting like a teenaged Batman lite then I'll reconsider dropping it after "The Culling".

[Zak213]

I think people are getting too worked up of scott watching young justice as he never said he was against the show, so that doesnt mean he couldnt have watched the show in betwen the 8 months from the relaunch.

i dont think Artemis is a amalgam of artemis and mia or artemis and arrowette but her lack of asian features could be due to the artstyle. Plus artemis doesn't really have asian features due to genes or something. She isn't a character brought in from YJ as her character exist before as Tigress a obscure JSA villian.

[vampiric_cannibal]

I'm not saying Artemis is an amalgram of the crappy YJ character and Mia. I'm saying it is /Mia going by the secret identity of Artemis. And I suspect I'm completely correct. The character does look exactly as I think Booth would draw Mia, and Artemis works better as a codename than Speedy would, particularly for the 6 kids who watch YJ and now read Titans.

If it does turn out to be the sort of Asian blond (wtf...) from YJ, I suspect she'll die in the crossover.