It's not stupidity not to recognize what Sentinels represent to mutants. It's simply coming from a very different background than mutants come from. Humans haven't actually seen the things that have been done to mutants over the years. Most of it's been either in secret or spun by the government and the media as being something different.
However, I don't think this was a case that the Academy kids needed more training because of abuse, as much as they were at risk of becoming villains, so they needed to be monitored while they are trained. There's a difference. In your case, the kids aren't prisoners and could have left the program and nobody would have cared. In my case, the kids can't leave and if they do they can't be trusted. Maybe it's a mixture of the two views. The Avengers set up the Academy because they recognized that there were kids out there that could become villains, and they wanted to short circuit that process by showing them the better way, and that's to be commended. The fact that the Avengers head hunted these kids, and not the Bastards of Evil kids tells me you're closer to the truth. The Avengers also know the Bastards are out there, but haven't raised a finger to bring them into school.
As to your comment that the turnkey is different to the inmate, there is a connotation that the Academy kids are now seen as establishment, and I don't think anybody can make that assumption. These kids know their own mind and will act accordingly, and they won't be brow beaten by Captain America. If the Academy kids disagree with Cap, then they will let the mutants out. The Academy kids disobeyed their handlers and attacked Norman Osborn in the Raft. What is the West Coast compound going to compare to that?
Last edited by jackolover; 05-04-2012 at 07:57 PM.
Visited NY and DC and saw Spider-Man Turn off the Dark.
But in-universe? Even the other heroes sometimes look at the X-Men with suspicion. I don't just mean now, with Utopia, but in the past, as well. And that suspicion is mutual - the X-Men have never been sure which side the Avengers would fall on if the government ever came after mutants in force. I'm not sure most of the Avengers are sure, either.
And the news almost certainly doesn't say, "Sentinels attacked the X-Men today." More likely, it would be presented as, "A clash between a group of mutant vigilantes and Sentinels today. Authorities allege that the mutants were causing a public disturbance, and when attempts were made to apprehend them, they became violent." Trish Tilby might report that the X-Men stopped a bank robber and that the Sentinels began the attack, but maybe she's biased. All the other reporters are supporting the government's statements, after all. And I don't remember if it was public knowledge that she dated Beast.
We know the facts. So we just assume that the characters in the comics know them, too.
On a side note, it bothers me that not a single Avenger showed up in the wake of Genosha to help look for survivors. 16 million dead, and the Avengers couldn't be bothered to see if any of them survived.
to their credit, quicksilver and wanda did show up at various points to help out in genosha. quicksilver, to help rescue polaris; wanda, to bury the body of xorn (magneto). the avengers knew about it, they were just too busy to be bothered....poor beast and jean had to sift through skeletal remains all by themselves.
Sentinels don't ALWAYS mean bad, and the X-kids freaking out is about as bad as the Avengers freaking out whenever they see Magneto-- ie you can't blame them, but they're being rash.
And for same reason that the x-kids have little right to be offended by the sentinel: they have, on their team, an unrepentant terrorist who's killed thousands of humans.
Anyway, ovens and gas chambers were used for one purpose and one purpose only: Killing. Sentinels have always been spun as "protection." The ones that wiped out Genosha were a specific model, only seen that one time, never seen before or since.
Mutants are totally justified in expecting a fight every time they see a Sentinel. But I don't think it's unreasonable to believe most non-mutants wouldn't quite understand just how offensive Sentinels are to mutants.
On an unrelated note, I just browsed through a bit of the X-board thread on this issue. It reminded me why I don't read the X-boards any more. Oy.