Avengers Academy #29 *Spoilers*

[mikekerrIII]

Up until recently when human pilots were added.

And the most prominet role for them as Concentration Camp gaurds being driven MOSTY by openly bigoted pilots

I'm not especially familiar with the character. Is he waterbreathing exclusive? If so, then what was he doing out of the water to begin with? If he needs it, then where are his chaperones to explain his needs to Tigra, Herc, or the AA kids? I'm sure allowances could have been made for his situation. But instead, he chooses to take a running leap for what looks like freedom... when everyone knows the AA Cadets were told to stop them from leaving.

Atlantean Mutant.

I think you missed my point stopping them from leaving by force is a hostile act in itself, it most definitely is neither friendly or even neutral.

[mikekerrIII]

Concentration Camp is a bit dramatic. Are they to be starved? Will they be sterilized? Will they be put in ovens and under Zycon B? No. It is temporary protective custody. It happens quite a bit with young people.

I wouldn't like it either. Face it though, this story which takes months our time will be over in days their time.

The concentration Camp is a reference to the 198 mini where the government tried to implant permanent trackers with weapons capability into the mutants. A few were murdered and all were imprisoned by force

I would cal the AA an Interment camp or a POW camp, not necessary particularly malignant ones but serving the same purpose.

[custodes]

The government has used concentration camps before. Maggot died in one.

Well, that's nice. I'm for ending all governement anti-mutant (as well as anti-powered hero) interference at all. Plenty of other countries out there for that. Old, boring storyline. End it yes. Isn't that what we all want? Or do we want it to go on so we may complain?

I don't see AA has any of that death camp atmosphere? Where is it? Different situation. Drama.

I'm not even taking sides. These fights...all of them...mean nothing. Only the Phoenix and Hope mean anything. Neither Cyclops nor Cap nor the Government has any control. All this is fluff. She escapes with ease. The heroes fight for nothing. Everyone takes sides for nothing.

[custodes]

Atlantean Mutant.

I think you missed my point stopping them from leaving by force is a hostile act in itself, it most definitely is neither friendly or even neutral.

Illegal alien on American soil. Unless they used his Atlantean passport to enter the country.

The concentration Camp is a reference to the 198 mini where the government tried to implant permanent trackers with weapons capability into the mutants. A few were murdered and all were imprisoned by force

I would cal the AA an Interment camp or a POW camp, not necessary particularly malignant ones but serving the same purpose.

Temporary. Days probably. Not real world time of months. Too much drama about this group and that.

It would be the same with any other non-mutant group of powered beings in this situation. Why don't we instead blame the writers and tell them "No more US governement anti-mutant laws and no more sentinals and no camps." New plots please.

[mikekerrIII]

I don't see AA has any of that death camp atmosphere? Where is it? Different situation. Drama.

Top the peole involved it would be very similar. government agents imprisoning them, even comfortably while acting against their race. The avengers are operating under the same kind of, and source of< authority that allowed them to be driven to Utopia for refuge in the fist place.

I'm not even taking sides. These fights...all of them...mean nothing. Only the Phoenix and Hope mean anything. Neither Cyclops nor Cap nor the Government has any control. All this is fluff. She escapes with ease. The heroes fight for nothing. Everyone takes sides for nothing.

Only Hope matters, the X-men are intent on protecting her, the Avengers are not.

[mikekerrIII]

Illegal alien on American soil. Unless they used his Atlantean passport to enter the country.

Stopped from re-entruing his own country at the border after being taken from his home. He lives below Utopia.

Temporary. Days probably. Not real world time of months. Too much drama about this group and that.

With the experience that they have why would they believe that? After all Stark and Hand are with the Avengers

It would be the same with any other non-mutant group of powered beings in this situation. Why don't we instead blame the writers and tell them "No more US governement anti-mutant laws and no more sentinals and no camps." New plots please.

I would love that. Too bad that dream doesn't apply in the MU. It might require thinking up new plots.

[coveredinbees]

This is my favorite book.

[coveredinbees]

lol



Finesse and X-23 are perfect pals!

[coveredinbees]

Top the peole involved it would be very similar. government agents imprisoning them, even comfortably while acting against their race. The avengers are operating under the same kind of, and source of< authority that allowed them to be driven to Utopia for refuge in the fist place.
Only Hope matters, the X-men are intent on protecting her, the Avengers are not.

The Avengers want to help her. Wolverine doesn't.

[custodes]

lol



Finesse and X-23 are perfect pals!

Mini-series? With Hellion and Reptil or ......

[Lascoden]

lol



Finesse and X-23 are perfect pals!

Says the man who forgot to install security cameras in his jail cell.

[custodes]

Cap and the Avengers help and save young women and other people all the time. Why do some X-Fans think it is different now with Hope? I can not imagine they would not try to help her. That is what they do all the time. That is what they will do.

Drama.

[coveredinbees]

Says the man who forgot to install security cameras in his jail cell.

What does that have to do with the New X-Men being whiners?

[Lascoden]

Cap and the Avengers help and save young women and other people all the time. Why do some X-Fans think it is different now with Hope? I can not imagine they would not try to help her. That is what they do all the time. That is what they will do.

Drama.

I think it's more the attitude of "If you don't want our help, too damn bad, this is our show now."

[Lascoden]

What does that have to do with the New X-Men being whiners?

He's not the most observant guy around, is what I'm getting at. I wouldn't really trust the guys input without a grain of salt.