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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Hurt View Post
    She's Helena Wayne. She calls her Batman "dad" multiple times in E1 #1.
    No, I know that in Earth 2, its Helena Wayne, but in the Huntress mini-series that was written by Paul Levitz, she doesn't. I'm pretty sure the mini-series was based on the Huntress of Earth-Prime/New Earth, i.e. Helena Bertinelli.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeeguy91 View Post
    No, I know that in Earth 2, its Helena Wayne, but in the Huntress mini-series that was written by Paul Levitz, she doesn't. I'm pretty sure the mini-series was based on the Huntress of Earth-Prime/New Earth, i.e. Helena Bertinelli.
    Read the end of the mini-series it shows Huntress meeting up with Powergirl. The Huntress in the miniseries is Wayne not Bertinelli. Heck the beginning of World's Finest (which takes place in Earth Prime) states that the Earth Prime Helena Bertinelli is dead. The Huntress miniseries was originally planned to be Bertinelli but it got changed to Wayne early in development.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveGus View Post
    I didn't realize that. I wonder if this is true in general of all DC gods?
    No, it is really only the Kirby New Gods. Grant Morrison and Walter Simonson kinda introduce the idea of the New Gods as multiversal Ideas/Forms. I mean we saw that Hermes/Mercury are different on Earth-Prime and Earth-2 (heck Earth-2's pantheon is dead now)

    Quote Originally Posted by Sacred Knight View Post
    As far as there being just one set of New Gods, has this been categorically confirmed? I like this scenario best by far, and hope its true, I just haven't seen it concretely stated.
    It was essentially concretely stated in the first Justice League arc. When Superman was taken to Apokolips he saw multiple Earths being invaded and different versions of himself die. And as I stated above the idea is not entirely new.

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    Duh, I completely forgot about that scene with Superman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vaffrey View Post
    It's a thread about Earth-2. There's a separate thread about AC. Go read that one.
    Good job, not only did you completely miss my point (there is an AC one now with 9 posts), but you have demonstrated your will to only focus on the 'bad' to complain about the bad. Thank you.

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    I'm so grateful for the gods in Azzarello, it makes me sad to see them depicted here-- "Oh Diana, we are so grateful for YOU! We aren't worthy!" Yuck. What god would actually say that?

    Double yuck for Diana's costume. What do those little curls sprouting from her tiara actually do? Protect her rouge?

    This wasn't a bad story, but I probably won't buy the next issue.

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    A god who knew that not only he would probably perish, but that Diana probably would as well. What's yucky about the gods wanting to pass on their thanks and let Diana know before she died that she was appreciated and admired for her efforts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeeguy91 View Post
    No, I know that in Earth 2, its Helena Wayne, but in the Huntress mini-series that was written by Paul Levitz, she doesn't. I'm pretty sure the mini-series was based on the Huntress of Earth-Prime/New Earth, i.e. Helena Bertinelli.
    Based on the early news and interviews, I still believe that it initially was going to be Helena Bertinelli, but plans for Worlds' Finest/Earth-2 solidified around the time the first issues were coming out.

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    I think that's a possible if not probable theory. I haven't read the mini myself though so I don't know, is there much in those first two issues (I think #3 is when the Wayne hinting started?) that really contradicted the reveal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacred Knight View Post
    I think that's a possible if not probable theory. I haven't read the mini myself though so I don't know, is there much in those first two issues (I think #3 is when the Wayne hinting started?) that really contradicted the reveal?
    It is not a theory Levitz himself said that initially the plan was to use Bertinelli, plans changed around the time the 1st or second 2nd issue came out.

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    Ha, well there you have it then. I'm 0-2 here with the info. But no wonder people are still a bit confused. There's your answer though Zeeguy on why she didn't refer to Batman as her dad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximum Impact View Post
    Look here dude, I said the entire Trinity was killed too easily...and they were. My beef with Wonder Woman is they also slaughtered her nation, ensuring there would be no one to take up her legacy. Batman and Superman have obvious ace's in the hole thanks to Power Girl and the Huntress. Wonder Woman gets nobody because they don't care enough about her mythos like they care about the rest.
    I guess the argument would be that technicaly Jay Garrick is Wonder Woman's legacy. He now gets his powers from one of her gods, and is now linked into her mythos. So yeah, Batman and Superman's legacy characters sorta **** up and wind up on the wrong Earth-2, while Diana's is one of the main heroes of the story.

    That seems pretty good to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximum Impact View Post
    Only if someone is willing to take up her mantle, otherwise let it remain in the dirt. Now would be the perfect time to introduce Donna Troy.
    She kinda had a multiversal history as well. Could be an opportunity to exploit that. The hidden Amazon that was somewhere else when this all went down. Robinson did use her a lot in his JLA run so ya never know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacred Knight View Post
    Diana was killed by whom all accounts was the field general of the entire invasion. No mentions of Darkseid here, just Steppenwolf. That she was killed by him, and in such a fashion in which he had to sneak up on her while taking on hordes of parademons to do it, I hardly think equates to being punked out nor portrays her as weak.
    Steppenwolf - if memory serves - is supposed to be Darksied's master assassin, so attacking by surprise from behind is his thing. Superman got taken down by mere field troops so you could say he got the shorter straw.

    Ultimately though I just didnt feel the need to buy it. I flicked through it and put it back on the shelf and spent my money on the latest Angel and Faith issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brettc1 View Post
    Steppenwolf - if memory serves - is supposed to be Darksied's master assassin, so attacking by surprise from behind is his thing.
    I thought that was Kanto. Steppenwolf was Darkseid's leader of stormtroopers.
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