What if Hope really DID turn out to be Jean?

[blackphoenix]

It would be sodding awful, for everyone.

My thoughts exactly. If Hope turns out to be Jean reborn, it would suck so hard.

If Jean returned, I'd like her to return as the true phoenix, and perhapse take a Surfer like role in the Marvel U, as a cosmic being that went cruising the galaxy as a superhero.

I'd love that, especially if she ressurected the Beyonder (or his female form, Kosmos) and make him her herald. If future Franklin has Galactus as a herald, why shouldn't Jean get one?

How is Jean still (merged with) the Phoenix and in the WHR if the Phoenix is coming to earth and having planet snacks on the way? WTF?

*shrugs* It's a mess. They'll probably just pretend like it never happened.

[Spider-Dragon]

How is Jean still (merged with) the Phoenix and in the WHR if the Phoenix is coming to earth and having planet snacks on the way? WTF?

Since Jean Grey is the PF and it's been fragmented then that would mean that Jean Grey's personality has been fragmented as well. As she draws the PF fragments together she is also merging the different sides of her personality together as well.

The side of Jean Grey that is drawing the fragments together is still in the White Hot Room while the already merged fragments/and sides of Jean Grey's personality are heading towards earth.


Since the PF isn't whole then neither is Jean Grey...at least that's the way I see it.

[PsychoGoatee]

Now as a Jean fan, I never believed this theory nor did I want to (in fact over two years ago right before Second Coming I asked Tom Brevoort I did not want Hope to be Jean) but I was wondering how everyone would feel if the editors were lying this whole time and threw a curveball at the end of AvX that revealed that Hope is indeed the reincarnated form of Jean Grey. How would you feel? Would this change your opinions on Hope and/or Jean?

Well, one question about this theory. Hope is old enough that she's pretty much an adult, and Cyclops knew Jean as a teen as well. So... at this point, we know for a fact they don't look the same, they're not the same person. So is this theory suggesting Jean's mind somehow went into an unrelated baby? That'd seem... odd.

[darknessatnoon]

Your theory is wrong. Give it up.

[Ian Pressman]

Too much of a stretch. I'd walk away from these books faster than I did with the Clone saga.

[Spider-Dragon]

Your theory is wrong. Give it up.

I'll give it up when or if the end of the story proves me wrong.

[ZNOP]

Well, one question about this theory. Hope is old enough that she's pretty much an adult, and Cyclops knew Jean as a teen as well. So... at this point, we know for a fact they don't look the same, they're not the same person. So is this theory suggesting Jean's mind somehow went into an unrelated baby? That'd seem... odd.

I don't know how you don't see the stark resemblance between Jean and Hope... But, then again many have said that Jean And Maddie didn't look alike either -- Go figure... In any event She looks like Jean/Madelyne to me

[Last1oftheJedi]

I don't know how you don't see the stark resemblance between Jean and Hope... But, then again many have said that Jean And Maddie didn't look alike either -- Go figure... In any event She looks like Jean/Madelyne to me

It was stated several times in X-Men and later Factor that Maddie bore an uncanny resemblence to Jean. o.o;

[ZNOP]

It was stated several times in X-Men and later Factor that Maddie bore an uncanny resemblence to Jean. o.o;

You haven't been down long enough to have been here for that rather lengthy debate some years ago. Nevertheless... There were many "Playette" haters (Many who are still members here ) who when well out of there way to say otherwise despite what the pages said. I just sayin'.

[scouse mouse]

The Pheonix just likes using red haired women as hosts. As seen by this retconned Iron Fist Pheonix. If Hope had been born blonde the Pheonix wouldn't be interested in her and would taken Mary Jane Watson instead.

[darknessatnoon]

You haven't been down long enough to have been here for that rather lengthy debate some years ago. Nevertheless... There were many Playette haters (Many who are still members here ) who when well out of there way to say otherwise despite what the pages said. I just sayin'.

ZNOP, you're such a ghetto-vet.

[pryde15]

If Hope really was Jean Grey, then that would mean that Jean Grey has eaten a rat..and I can't respect a redheaded rat eater.
I'd say it would be best just to kill her off again at that point.

[ZNOP]

ZNOP, you're such a ghetto-vet.

Hmmm... O'k, I'll take that as a compliment.

[Spider-Dragon]

If Hope really was Jean Grey, then that would mean that Jean Grey has eaten a rat..and I can't respect a redheaded rat eater.
I'd say it would be best just to kill her off again at that point.

I think depending on the situation anyone would eat a rat to survive.

[ZNOP]

If Hope really was Jean Grey, then that would mean that Jean Grey has eaten a rat..and I can't respect a redheaded rat eater.

And, just what do you think Jean ate in the Askani timeline? Peking Roast duck?!?

I think depending on the situation anyone would eat a rat to survive.

Indeed. Hunger trumps any and every other feeling... Including sex!