Amazing Spider-Man #685 *SPOILERS*

[spideybr]

Don't forget about The Black Widow also as she now has full confidence in Spidey's leadership skills. Although, I hope she gets some increased interaction with Spider-Man in issue 686 and 687. It's my hope that The Black Widow and Spider-Man would become friends because I seriously doubt that things will be the same between them after this. The Black Widow doesn't have a lot of close friends. And the two people who could be part of her social circle are Spider-Man and Silver Sable. It would be cool to see The Black Widow and Silver Sable establish a close friendship and work together. In conclusion, The Black Widow would make for an interesting alternate crime fighting partner(to The Black Cat) for Spider-Man on occasion.

Does anyone else feels that Spidey's recent actions against The Sinister Six might helped to dispel all doubts that The Black Widow has about Spider-Man's leadership skills and personality?

You do know spider-man dated black widow already when she was brainwashed,dont you ? She still remembers it vividly she just blocked as another personality, all spider-man has to do is hit her in the head

[Spidey_Legend]

You do know spider-man dated black widow already when she was brainwashed,dont you ? She still remembers it vividly she just blocked as another personality, all spider-man has to do is hit her in the head

He didn't date her, just kissed.

[TheboyinShadows]

Damn pairing wars. Can't they discuss their pointless "who should Peter bang" debate in another thread.

LOL to you sir

Don't she why she would as Spidey was seemingly the ONLY one on Earth trying to stop Ock.

Agreed.
PS Did not get the whole loyal thing on his part though.
This has already been adressed so not getting into it.

I will uphold my earlier theory that Ock's masterplan is tricking Spidey to become a criminal.
And the whole Ock Lens is just him messing around with everyone.
There is no cure for globalwarming, never was I believe.

[Xenith]

Hearing Greg Weisman talk about how many comments he saw regarding Gwen dying in the Spectacular cartoon is really... illuminating...

I've always half wondered if he didn't just talk about possibly doing the death of Gwen Stacy direct to DVD movie just to try to stop people asking about doing it on the show

Strange how Sabra took out those Octo Bots with just duel pistols. Doesn't she have powers. And that costume, seems like someone just looked at Madam Mask's for reference. Pretty lazy on editorial's part. Otherwise great issue much better than last issue.

Sabra is not a new character, she was created way back around 1980 by Bill Mantlo. Not sure why the costume she wears is similar to Whitney Frost though? She has powers (she may or may not be a mutant...it's gone back and forth between mutant and Israeli Captain America) enhanced speed, strength, stamina, durability, reflexes etc although her main power really seems to be transfer of life energy. So yeah not the most ideal power to take on robots, which is why she was using the guns instead.

[John Ossie]

I'll see your pairing war, and raise you a warm bath, a cold six-pack of Dos Equis, and a Jonathan Franzen novel.

I shall take your warm bath, six-pack of Dos Equis and a Jonathan Franzen novel and run with it lol.

Well, it really comes down to MJ vs. a character that they have no intention of reviving or a completely new character to come out of nowhere and swoop in and become THE preeminent love interest of the Spider-Man franchise after 50 years into it.

This is based on a piece from Harry Hill's Tv Burp ''Who's better between MJ and random love interest for Spider-Man?'' there's only one way to find out viewers....FIGGGGHHHHTTT!!!!''' Then we'd get women pretending to random love interests for Spidey and a woman pretending to be MJ ''fighting'' on the stage lol.

Back to the actual comic and story...does no one on Horizon care that Peter Parker is AWOL yet again?!

Well as ViewtifulJC says Peter did tell Max he was going to help Spider-Man however if you want a stillanerd esque theory then my stillanerdesque theory is that Max knows he's Spidey somehow

Peter told Max he has to help Spider-Man, so I guess Modell assumes Peter is off helping him.

Agreed.

I am digging AVX, but once again Dan Slot has crafted a spider-man story that seems to beat out the big event in both quality and scope. Kudos Mr. Slott!

Agreed I think Slott's End Of The Earth story is superior to AvX by a mile it's not even close lol.

[Darthfury78]

You do know spider-man kissed black widow already when she was brainwashed,don't you ? She still remembers it vividly she just blocked as another personality, all spider-man has to do is hit her in the head

The Black Widow never apologized for kissing him either. I believe that Natasha PUSHED him away because she didn't want to admit that the feeling were mutual. And she never got over her feelings for Daredevil at that time as she was hoping to patch things up with him. Otherwise, The Black Widow might have become Spider-Man's first female crime fighting partner. Sometimes whenever she hears Spider-Man's name, Natasha gets frustrated because with his wisecracks. Never the less, she would make a great alternate crime fighting partner(to The Black Cat) for Spider-Man on occasion as she sometimes do with either Daredevil or Hawkeye.

[justinalba89]

Does anyone else think that the people at horizon should be figuring out that Peter is Spidey after the two days at sea and not hearing from him about why horizon's shut down? I'd like to think that they're all smarter than carlie cooper and all she had to do was realize that Peter and Spidey aren't ever around at the same time...

[David Walton]

Does anyone else think that the people at horizon should be figuring out that Peter is Spidey after the two days at sea and not hearing from him about why horizon's shut down? I'd like to think that they're all smarter than carlie cooper and all she had to do was realize that Peter and Spidey aren't ever around at the same time...

They're geniuses. They can't see anything because they're too busy seeing everything.

[Patroklos]

Is it just me, or was the torture scene with Sandman in very bad taste? I'm all for all kind of grim stuff happening in mainstream comics as long as they serve a purpose for the story, that's not the point I'm making, but having the hero torturing someone for answers and then implicitly stating that it was the right thing to do doesn't sit well with me at all

[OkieDokiLoki]

You just exposed my secret identity as Spider-Man! HOW COULD YOU DO THAT?!

XDD

Kevinroc, I love you! <33

[Schmed]

Schmed, glad to see you are still reading the book and around

Oh I'll never not be reading the book but I just get sick of some folks talking in absolutes all the time and all the bickering over this, that and the other thing. I long for the days when people read cartoon books for fun instead of reading cartoon books to be mad about cartoon books. As far as I'm concerned Slott and company have been putting out the best stories I've read consistently since the Stern era, I wouldn't miss a page of this mag right now.

[Darthfury78]

Oh I'll never not be reading the book but I just get sick of some folks talking in absolutes all the time and all the bickering over this, that and the other thing. I long for the days when people read cartoon books for fun instead of reading cartoon books to be mad about cartoon books. As far as I'm concerned Slott and company have been putting out the best stories I've read consistently since the Stern era, I wouldn't miss a page of this mag right now.

I have to say that Dan(The Man) Slott is one of the most gifted writers around. He has add some interesting twists and turns for Spider-Man of which no other writer has done in the past. With regards to Spidey being in a romantic relationship with a super heroine, I really don't blame him for not going in that direction because it's not the most important thing that most folks care about when it comes to reading ASM. In addition, why would a writer put Spidey in a relationship(other than Mary Jane) if the readers know that it's not going to last?

One of the reasons why I created my list of heroines who are interested in Spider-Man is because we all know that:

Ms. Marvel
Silver Sable
Spider-Woman
Black Widow
She-Hulk
Psylocke

Are not likely to settle down with Peter Parker to start a family with him. Does anyone actually think that any of the women mentioned is going to want to settle down and have a family with Peter Parker? This was one of the reasons why The Black Cat bailed out on him the first time around. In addition. I will assume that the heroines mentioned do not have a secret identity to protect whereas Spider-Man does. If Peter was in a serious relationship with any of the women mentioned, it wouldn't take long for the heroines respective enemies to know that Spider-Man is Peter Parker. This is why Spider-Man's mutual relationship with a heroine will not go pass the close friends level. At least, that how I see it.

[SuperCooper]

It was a good issue, but wasn't really feeling Ramos' art in some places. It's a random assortment of heroes Spidey's called upon (could use some more Alpha Flight) but the one-shot should be intriguing to say the least. For a middle-of-the-story segment it was fast paced with a good leaning towards character definition, like Sidey and Silver Sabel, Doc Ock, etc. But I felt the opening was a little jarring; en media res wasn't used quite to the best effect.

[Kurolegacy]

Is it just me, or was the torture scene with Sandman in very bad taste? I'm all for all kind of grim stuff happening in mainstream comics as long as they serve a purpose for the story, that's not the point I'm making, but having the hero torturing someone for answers and then implicitly stating that it was the right thing to do doesn't sit well with me at all

Sandman should just be glad that it was Peter he was dealing with there and not Kaine because Kaine's got the brains to have created those same kinds of gadgets Peter made and is willing to go to those kinds of lengths for real rather than just as an act.

[Pacote]

Exactly. The only other person who even comes close to Mary Jane in terms of significance to Peter's life is Gwen, who is best known for getting tossed off a bridge and killed by a guy dressed in a goblin costume. Everybody has a favorite MJ moment; who actually has a favorite Gwen moment? That time she told Peter he looked good in his red boe-tie and brushed some dirt off his shoulder? Gwen is far more important, not just to Spider-Man but to comics in general (her death literally changed the way comics were written forever) dead than alive, which leads to another thing I don't get: proponents of Gwen's return, which would basically be the point of no return for almost any sane fan.