Yost Concludes "Battle Scars" with Agent Coulson's Help

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616 is fictional. He belongs anywhere writers choose to write him.

Funny. I don't recall you (or most Black Panther fans here) saying this when writers wrote T'challa leaving Wakanda and taking up residence in Hell's Kitchen.

They have before...in with the Ulimates. With Captian America.

And it's not same thing and you know this example is BEYOND stupid. You wonder why Marvel totally ignores you guys. This is it. Nick isn't being replaced. Nick hasn't done what Marcus is going to do since the 60's.

This is no different then Luke Cage and the New Power man. Try making some sense, instead of incredible leaps in logic.

It's never the 'same thing' when it's about a character _you_ like. It's not the 'same thing' as Luke Cage and New Power Man either, since Marvel isn't pushing New Power Man, or as you always point out, putting him in 9 movies, they aren't reducing Luke Cage's abilities and removing him from the New Avengers and Thunderbolts and replacing him with New Power Man. YOUR example is pretty stupid.

As a black dude, I agree with you there. I have no problems with Nick Fury having a black son, the introduction of Marcus as a character or even having them bond in a Son of Fury series. I just hate that they feel that the only way to introduce a new black character was to make him a knock off of an existing, great character and Samuel L cool. I think most people were turned off by them force feeding it to us, when they should have let it naturally ride. At least let him keep his deceased mother's name. That said, it will be fun to see where they do take him.

This isn't about adding diversity to Marvel with a new black / biracial character. The diversity message, as you pointed out in part, is pretty awful, if you think about it.

[Monty_Cristo]

hell, didn't they replace "New Power Man" with Luke in the cartoon? i mean "New White Tiger" and Nova are present.

[MagSeven]

I'm completely fine with them adding Coulson to the MU. He's somewhat of an original character. But, replacing the classic, original Nick Fury with Sam Jackson just to appease Marvel's imaginary new readers is ridiculous. If they wanted to make Marcus an original character, he could've been good. But making him 616's Sam Fury is an insult. If Marvel wants more black characters, create more black characers. Don't replace originals!!!!! (PS I know thety say the real Nick isn't going anywhere, but I'm still worried. It's only a matter of time untill a crappy writer comes along and says "wait a minute. we have two Nick Furys. Let's kill the white one off."

Sam Fury does NOT belong in 616!!!!

I hope Samuel L Jackson starts shopping where you shop. I hope Samuel L Jackson starts hanging out where you go. I hope Samuel L Jackson starts delivering your mail. I hope they bring back Nightcrawler and he looks just like Samuel L Jackson.
Samuel L Jackson! Samuel L Jackson! Samuel L Jackson! Samuel L Jackson!

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hell, didn't they replace "New Power Man" with Luke in the cartoon? i mean "New White Tiger" and Nova are present.

They didn't replace Ultimate Peter Parker with Ultimate Spider-man replacement Miles Morales in the cartoon either. More examples of why Marvel's 'synergy across all media' excuse is bogus.

[Monty_Cristo]

I hope Samuel L Jackson starts shopping where you shop. I hope Samuel L Jackson starts hanging out where you go. I hope Samuel L Jackson starts delivering your mail. I hope they bring back Nightcrawler and he looks just like Samuel L Jackson.
Samuel L Jackson! Samuel L Jackson! Samuel L Jackson! Samuel L Jackson!

Samuel L Jackson does deliver my mail; with great vengeance and furious anger. even getting the super saver is an intense affair.

[Umbra]

Funny. I don't recall you (or most Black Panther fans here) saying this when writers wrote T'challa leaving Wakanda and taking up residence in Hell's Kitchen.

You still posting to me? You recalled wrong as usual. Smh. Again, I don't check for you. You always reply to my post. Gotta love you Stans.

http://forums.comicbookresources.com...rs*&highlight=
Stop lying...you only look stupid, doing so. Again, I don't check for your post. Lol

It's never the 'same thing' when it's about a character _you_ like. It's not the 'same thing' as Luke Cage and New Power Man either, since Marvel isn't pushing New Power Man, or as you always point out, putting him in 9 movies, they aren't reducing Luke Cage's abilities and removing him from the New Avengers and Thunderbolts and replacing him with New Power Man. YOUR example is pretty stupid.

Actually it's not. They are NOT replacing Senior Fury...and Senior is going to show up in 3 different books, that includes a Max title...all by very popular writers. Marcus isn't taking the director role. Nick Fury has not been that for HOW LONG? Steve Rogers has that role...and Marcus is going to be a agent like rookie Ethan Hunt or rookie Jason Borne...a role that Nick really has not had since the 60-70's. So yeah, all the crying is stupid. It's just like the example I made...because Luke doesn't do the Powerman thing...so another character doing so isn't replacing him.

And don't assume what characters I like and don't like. Again, that's stupid. You of all people don't know what I like or don't like. I'm a Fury fan, just calling some of the complains BS.

Whining about stuff like this, totally negates valid points, like the infinity formula. All this other stuff is nonsense.

Plus, just like his son there are larger plans for Nick Fury Sr., correct?

Right I know Matt Fraction has plans for him over in "Defenders." Nick Fury Sr. is a great character and will always be a great character. There's definitely room in the Marvel Universe for both father and son.

I don't know why I even bothered, you never make sense.

[Umbra]

hell, didn't they replace "New Power Man" with Luke in the cartoon? i mean "New White Tiger" and Nova are present.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?p...ticle&id=38444

None if those characters are a part of something like this! Luke has a movie in development, and there is the new Spiderman movie. So that's the difference. They are lining up to movies, not Cartoon shows.

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You still posting to me? You recalled wrong as usual. Smh. Again, I don't check for you. You always reply to my post. Gotta love you Stans.

http://forums.comicbookresources.com...rs*&highlight=
Stop lying...you only look stupid, doing so. Again, I don't check for your post. Lol



Actually it's not. They are NOT replacing Senior Fury...and Senior is going to show up in 3 different books, that includes a Max title...all by very popular writers. Marcus isn't taking the director role. Nick Fury has not been that for HOW LONG? Steve Rogers has that role...and Marcus is going to be a agent like Ethan Hunt or Jason Borne...a role that Nick really has not had since the 60-70's. So yeah, all the crying is stupid. It's just like the example I made...because Luke doesn't do the Powerman thing...so another character doing so isn't replacing him.

Whining about stuff like this, totally negates valid points, like the infinity formula. All this other stuff is nonsense.



I don't know why I even bothered, you never make sense.

Always attacking anyone who doesn't agree with you with accusations of stupidity or not making sense, yet you still don't grasp the concept of a public bulletin board, I see.

Thanks for the link in which YOU admit fans have gone on and on about hating the idea of T'challa in Hell's Kitchen. Obviously you're confused, but that actually proves MY point, so I'm not lying and you look, well, to quote you, "you only look stupid."

There has been a lot of criticism, about T’challa turned “street hero,”

I'm sorry you don't grasp what replacement means. If you get fired and you boss hires someone to take your place, then you have been REPLACED. That's what's happening here. Classic Nick Fury is showing up in a Max mini-series and supposedly in Winter Soldier. TomB has outright said, we'll be seeing less of him and much more of Fake Fury.

And again, it's nothing like your example of Luke Cage and New Power Man, but of course, you don't understand that, even when it's explained to you.

[FriendRoss]

the thing about fury….. when was the last thing he actually had a vital up front role? really did something besides being a plot crutch where he shows up and hands out a mission or explains something?


even if they had "killed" fury sr…. would anyone odd actually buy it? can you actually kill nick fury?


my biggest thing with battle scars.. was why make coulston a badd ass soldier? to me, part of coulsons appeal is he is so baby faced yet tactical.

[Rheged]

Samuel L Jackson does deliver my mail; with great vengeance and furious anger. even getting the super saver is an intense affair.

I was going to say, I'd LOVE to have Samuel L. Jackson delivering my mail and all that, but now I'm not so sure. O_O

[Etoma]

I was going to say, I'd LOVE to have Samuel L. Jackson delivering my mail and all that, but now I'm not so sure. O_O

Well that says a lot.

[Umbra]

Always attacking anyone who doesn't agree with you with accusations of stupidity or not making sense, yet you still don't grasp the concept of a public bulletin board, I see.

Thanks for the link in which YOU admit fans have gone on and on about hating the idea of T'challa in Hell's Kitchen. Obviously you're confused, but that actually proves MY point, so I'm not lying and you look, well, to quote you, "you only look stupid."



I'm sorry you don't grasp what replacement means. If you get fired and you boss hires someone to take your place, then you have been REPLACED. That's what's happening here. Classic Nick Fury is showing up in a Max mini-series and supposedly in Winter Soldier. TomB has outright said, we'll be seeing less of him and much more of Fake Fury.

And again, it's nothing like your example of Luke Cage and New Power Man, but of course, you don't understand that, even when it's explained to you.

My point is to stop posting to me. Period. Don't you get it. I don't repect your opinion at all. I don't care. And you said I did...and now you are trying to spin. everybody didn't feel the same...stop making stupid statements. I didn't..otherwise it would not have had a A plus grade. WTF...if you like being a Stan...cool. I get it. Lol

You don't grasp the meaning. How is he being replaced at something he has been replaced with others before this. Make sense.
Steve Rogers has already replaced him dude. Secret Avengers, commarder of Shield. So did Stark...Winter Solder is doing the spy stuff. Wake up.

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the thing about fury….. when was the last thing he actually had a vital up front role? really did something besides being a plot crutch where he shows up and hands out a mission or explains something?

Secret Warriors and Avengers 1959, IIRC.

[NamorsTrident]

I agree, essentially. I don't think anyone is happy with a forcefed cinematic Fury. Inorganic genesis' are always really obnoxious.
That said: I actually like the character fine, no matter how or why we got him, and while Fury Sr. has always been a great character, he's also mostly been a character that's essentially on the fringes. I never read Secret Warriors, so I don't have any major attachment to him as a main character and I have no problem with a next generation, ESPECIALLY because Nick Sr. will be back in what? Between 2-5 years at full capacity? This is just a blip of difference, just like everything the big two does, before the status quo returns. I say try to enjoy it if you can, but I perfectly understand why a fan wouldn't be able to, as well.

Very sensible post and I agree.

Marcus has been a very fun an interesting character to get to know within the pages of Battle Scars. To be frank I'm looking forward to getting to know more about him. I know some think Ult. Fury should have stayed in the Ult. U but it should be considered how adult that line is. Most of the kids seeing the Avengers movie and decides to get a comic book because of it shouldn't be pointed to the Ultimate line. Add Ult. Fury to the 616 because of the adult nature of the Ult. line is probably just another of the many reasons the decision was made.

I understand why some are concern but Marvel seems very determine keeping the original Fury around. If all of you are really as big Nick Fury fans as you say make sure you pick up things he will be in. If the character makes enough money then there is no way Marvel can part with him. Also instead of seeing Marcus as a bad thing, maybe now is a time to view him as an opportunity to expand Fury's methos. See Marcus not as a threat but just another layer of Fury's history, story, and possibly future.(i.e. Dick Grayson to his Bruce Wayne an so on)

[Umbra]

the thing about fury….. when was the last thing he actually had a vital up front role? really did something besides being a plot crutch where he shows up and hands out a mission or explains something?


even if they had "killed" fury sr…. would anyone odd actually buy it? can you actually kill nick fury?


my biggest thing with battle scars.. was why make coulston a badd ass soldier? to me, part of coulsons appeal is he is so baby faced yet tactical.

He's going to have a role with The Defenders, in Winter Solider and has his own Max book by Garth Ennis.
He was in Secret Warriors, but wasn't really in the same role that Marcus is going to be used..and the Avengets 1959 book, which is a in the past title, that they could do...but I not sure how well received it was.