Warner Bros. Debuts Epic "Dark Knight Rises" Trailer

[Mr. Holmes]

jThat's pretty damned superficial and makes Bond seem even MORE capable than Batman.

It's not superficial, they do different things, and have different ways of doing them. The similarity between them is what's superficial.

[BrotherUnitNo_4]

It's not superficial, they do different things, and have different ways of doing them. The similarity between them is what's superficial.

Well I was going to get into a whole post about that but scrapped it with what I really wanted. I just want Batman to do cool stuff. That's it. I don't mind the characterization or story (neither is as deep as some say, imo), but I just want to see Batman kick butt and take names in an exciting manner.

My point about James Bond wasn't about the methodology or approach, just that for all intents and purposes, Batman should be cooler than he is in the movie. I get more joy watching the opening for BTAS, and that's how old now?

[Mr. Holmes]

Well I was going to get into a whole post about that but scrapped it with what I really wanted. I just want Batman to do cool stuff. That's it. I don't mind the characterization or story (neither is as deep as some say, imo), but I just want to see Batman kick butt and take names in an exciting manner.

We're not going to agree, but I think he does that just fine in these movies.

My point about James Bond wasn't about the methodology or approach, just that for all intents and purposes, Batman should be cooler than he is in the movie. I get more joy watching the opening for BTAS, and that's how old now?

And nostalgia has nothing to do with it?

[Castel]

Not really excited but well, that was good enough for a trailer i guess.

[SpiderCrawler]

Seriously? I think this trailer looks FANTASTIC. It's going to destroy the Avengers.

[smo5000]

I'm still going to watch this movie but none of the trailers have interested me much. Some things just seem out of place, Catwoman's mask having mini maglights was the weirdest one.

[Candid Rook]

But no, Rachel Dawes was a horrible, horrible character. Both versions of them.

I also disagree about Bruce Wayne. Keaton's was much more interesting. Bale seems more interesting because we are told more about him, we see him become Batman. But in terms of actual acting performance? Keaton was better. He was more mysterious, he emoted better just with his facial expressions and mannerisms. His performance is just much more subtle, you can see he is in pain and slightly unhinged, we don't need to be told about it with dialogue and exposition. Also, he was more scary with a whisper and a stone cold glare than Bale can ever be with his silly voice.


Even die hard Chris Nolan fans recognise his dialogue isn't always great. It's very clunky and exposition heavy. I mean seriously, who in their right mind thinks the dialogue Harvey Dent has at the dinner table is good? It's corny and melodramatic and spoon feeds the audience. A lot of Nolan's dialogue is like that.

Nolan breaks the golden rule of film making all the time. SHOW, DON'T TELL.

I agree with this 100%. Michael Keaton is definately underappreciated as regards his acting ability. A fine actor and the best Batman bar none. He did for Batman and Bruce Wayne what Christopher Reeve did for Superman and Clark Kent. The mask of the eccentric millionaire with occasional glimpses of the real personality underneath. Bales performance is nowhere near as interesting.

Having said that The Dark Knight is definitely the best Batman film, and the feeling of unpredictability the film gave to the Joker was edge of the seat stuff, especially combined with an outstanding performance by Ledger. The viewer and the Batman were always kept on the back foot, wondering what he was going to do next. Tying his story in with Two Face's origin was also a nice touch and was pretty seamless. However, the film had some glaring faults, the most obvious to me being an air of pretentiousness. I always had the feeling Nolan was trying too hard to convince the viewer that this was an intelligent , thought provoking crime movie masterpiece, which is hard to swallow when the protaganist is a guy dressed as a Bat. The exposition heavy dialogue contributed to this, in fact bits of it were truly awful and cheesy, especially the end. On top of that the action scenes, more specifically the fights, weren't very well shot and quite difficult to figure out at times.

As far as Bale giving an equivalent performance to Evans, I disagree. I found Bales performance to be very dull and lacking any real conviction. Evans, on the other hand, gave a performance which smacked of a 1940's hero, exactly what you want from a man out of time.

[Lord Bravery]

Agreed about Evans. He played a character that could have easily been really corny, but made it work. I think the first hour or so of Captain America, the actual origin part, is right up there with the best superhero origins. And that's mainly down to Evans' subtle and earnest performance. He continues to shine in Avengers, where he could have been easily overwhelmed by the more charismatic RDJ.

[Lord Bravery]

Seriously? I think this trailer looks FANTASTIC. It's going to destroy the Avengers.

The Hulk alone will make Avengers the most entertaining film of the summer. I've seen Avengers and TDKR has a lot to live up to. Not just in terms of action, but characterisation, dialogue and just an overall sense of entertainment.

[artiepants]

as someone who loves the series, loves Nolan and loved the last trailer, this one left me cold.

the good: the music was fantastic and the plane jacking looks absolutely jaw-dropping.

the bad: the quick cuts, the jumbled nature, the cgi on the bridge explosion and the end bit with "this isn't a car" seemed a little cheesy/out of place for this series. I just didn't get any sense of the goings-ons from this preview, it left me more confused than intrigued. (where as the prior trailer left me absolutely chomping at the bit to learn more)

the awful: that new DC logo. My gosh it is just the worst, looks like a joke mixed in with the other company IDs.

regardless, i still have faith in Nolan.

[verslibre]

Regardless of what people think, at the end of the day, Nolan > Whedon.

[Candid Rook]

The Hulk alone will make Avengers the most entertaining film of the summer. I've seen Avengers and TDKR has a lot to live up to. Not just in terms of action, but characterisation, dialogue and just an overall sense of entertainment.

Again, totally agree. Avengers had so much more that could go wrong and the fact Joss managed to juggle so much and make a film that lived up to the hype is a major achievement. The Avengers just wasn't decent, it was superb. I am not exactly an avengers fan and it blew me away. The action and scale was epic and the humour was fantastic. There were literally parts in the film where I missed the next sentence of dialogue because the audience had erupted into laughter. It deserves all the box office success it gets and lives up to the term summer blockbuster.

[Lord Bravery]

Again, totally agree. Avengers had so much more that could go wrong and the fact Joss managed to juggle so much and make a film that lived up to the hype is a major achievement. The Avengers just wasn't decent, it was superb. I am not exactly an avengers fan and it blew me away. The action and scale was epic and the humour was fantastic. There were literally parts in the film where I missed the next sentence of dialogue because the audience had erupted into laughter. It deserves all the box office success it gets and lives up to the term summer blockbuster.

Yea man, the audience was in stitches at certain points. Like full on fits of laughter. Especially with those two Hulk moments, don't wanna spoil them for others but you know what i mean ;)

[Candid Rook]

Yea man, the audience was in stitches at certain points. Like full on fits of laughter. Especially with those two Hulk moments, don't wanna spoil them for others but you know what i mean ;)

They were hilarious. Best Hulk and best Banner in Ruffalo.

[verslibre]

LOL at all the judgement calls. Wait till you see the movie, at least. Why compare Avengers and The Dark Knight? Aside from being "superhero" films, what is there to compare? TDKR is the third and final film in a trilogy, and the Nolans don't write their scripts overnight and push them through with nary a once-over (Iron Man 2, anyone?).

Sad that movies of this caliber can be made (and enjoyed) and the inevitable Marvel vs. DC crap has to manifest itself so quickly. It makes me think some people feel it's taboo to appreciate BOTH film franchises.