Warner Bros. Debuts Epic "Dark Knight Rises" Trailer

[RockinRobin182]

Correction: Nolan’s Trilogy has mainstream appeal. Most of the people raving about it have neither read the Dark Knight Returns or played Marvel vs. Capcom, and I wouldn’t have it any other way. Lord of the Rings was a great adaption for the same reason, in that you didn’t need to be a Tolkien Geek to appreciate it. Being a Tolkien Geek would allow you to notice more of the Easter Eggs, but it wasn’t strictly necessary to enjoy it. What you seem to be describing is a fanboy movie that focuses more on making references to the comic than on actually being a good film.

I don't mind a movie having mainstream appeal (obviously), what annoys me is when people see TDK and think that that's the only interpretation of Batman allowed. That's what gets me. I should have specified.

[Treqqor]

I don't mind a movie having mainstream appeal (obviously), what annoys me is when people see TDK and think that that's the only interpretation of Batman allowed. That's what gets me. I should have specified.

I agree. Oddly, Batman seems to be one of the most versatile characters out there, succeeding in dreadfully serious stories, campy light hearted stories, and everything in between.

[RockinRobin182]

I agree. Oddly, Batman seems to be one of the most versatile characters out there, succeeding in dreadfully serious stories, campy light hearted stories, and everything in between.

He definitely is, and it's just irritating when fans of only the Nolan movies think that dark, gritty, and pseudo-realistic is the only way to go about it. I still say TAS has the best adaptation/essence/mood of Batman. Dark, but not gritty, a sense of humor, for kids and adults, embracing it's comic book origins and incorporating in all facets of the Batman myth.

[Simbob4000]

I agree. Oddly, Batman seems to be one of the most versatile characters out there, succeeding in dreadfully serious stories, campy light hearted stories, and everything in between.

You can do that with any character, Batman just gets it far more than other characters.

He definitely is, and it's just irritating when fans of only the Nolan movies think that dark, gritty, and pseudo-realistic is the only way to go about it. I still say TAS has the best adaptation/essence/mood of Batman. Dark, but not gritty, a sense of humor, for kids and adults, embracing it's comic book origins and incorporating in all facets of the Batman myth.

His Batman really isn't that dark...maybe gritty, definitely pseudo-realistic. The 89 Batman movie was way darker than any of the Nolan movies, Batman killed people in that, Joker electrocuted a guy to death.

[RockinRobin182]

You can do that with any character, Batman just gets it far more than other characters.



His Batman really isn't that dark...maybe gritty, definitely pseudo-realistic. The 89 Batman movie was way darker than any of the Nolan movies, Batman killed people in that, Joker electrocuted a guy to death.

Yeah it's the gritty. Batman doesn't have to be gritty. He most certainly can be, but he doesn't have to be.

[The Batman]

He definitely is, and it's just irritating when fans of only the Nolan movies think that dark, gritty, and pseudo-realistic is the only way to go about it. I still say TAS has the best adaptation/essence/mood of Batman. Dark, but not gritty, a sense of humor, for kids and adults, embracing it's comic book origins and incorporating in all facets of the Batman myth.

As my friend Mark Zieba has pointed out to me whenever I've mentioned a similar point to him, it wasn't the darkness or pseudo-realism of the Nolan movies that makes them the only way he wants Batman. It's, as he says, that they're the only time that Batman has been more than silly super-heroics, the only time he's been smart, adult, and with real depth, thematic weight, and relevant commentary of the human experience.

Not sure I agree with any or all that, but for him at least the draw is more than darkness and realism.

[Simbob4000]

As my friend Mark Zieba has pointed out to me whenever I've mentioned a similar point to him, it wasn't the darkness or pseudo-realism of the Nolan movies that makes them the only way he wants Batman. It's, as he says, that they're the only time that Batman has been more than silly super-heroics, the only time he's been smart, adult, and with real depth, thematic weight, and relevant commentary of the human experience.

Not sure I agree with any or all that, but for him at least the draw is more than darkness and realism.

That just sounds goofy. It maybe has the pretense of those thing, at least The Dark Knight anyways, but it doesn't actually have those things.

You should point out to your friend that Batman talks to people that know he's Batman in his Batman voice...thats, pretty silly. There are also thing that Joker does that are so impossible that they're also silly.

[Mat001]

So it's silly when Bale's Batman does it, but not the animated actors?

[verslibre]

I likened it to staying "in character."