Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned!

[Cavemold]

Clearly you've not read a single word of the article, or more to the point, you've not understood a single word of it.

Maybe you'd like to find someone with a reading level above that of a six year old to explain it to you.

Go read my first post . Thanks.

[Charles RB]

I know we've got past this part of the discussion, but can I just put forward this piece from todays Mirror for those who are in any doubt about what rape consitutes.

I'm amazed a grown man, who presumably has some brain cells if he got onto Question Time, actually said on live telly that a twelve year old could "accept the advances" of grown men in a sex slavery gang.

[Slam_Bradley]

Why do people still engage it when they know it's not capable of a coherent thought?

[Cavemold]

Why do people still engage it when they know it's not capable of a coherent thought?

Why do people engage reailty? Good question

[Michael P]

Why do people still engage it when they know it's not capable of a coherent thought?

Handing itself enough rope to hang itself with?

[Jeff Brady]

Why do people engage reailty? Good question

Clearly you never have.

[Cavemold]

Clearly you never have.

Obviously not your reality ...

[carabas]

Why do people still engage it when they know it's not capable of a coherent thought?

Partly genuine scientific curiosity, partly just base cruelty.

[USArmyParatrooper]

I'm amazed a grown man, who presumably has some brain cells if he got onto Question Time, actually said on live telly that a twelve year old could "accept the advances" of grown men in a sex slavery gang.

I'm not at all saying 12 is acceptable age of consent, but I was capable of consenting at that age. I've been sexually active since age 13 and at 12 knew about sex and sexuality.

For minors there are separate charges depending on whether or not consent was involved. There are separate charges still depending on the age of the victim and/or the age of the accused.

Edit: Just so we are clear I am not saying that was the case in the story that was linked. I don't know any details on that one beyond what was already posted.

[thehod]

I'm not at all saying 12 is acceptable age of consent, but I was capable of consenting at that age. I've been sexually active since age 13 and at 12 knew about sex and sexuality.

Medical science would say that whilst you might have thought you were capable, emotionally and mentally, you really weren't.

[USArmyParatrooper]

Medical science would say that whilst you might have thought you were capable, emotionally and mentally, you really weren't.

Medical science said I had no free will?

[thehod]

Medical science said I had no free will?

Medical science says you weren't ready emotionally and mentally to be able to be fully capable of understanding the consequences of being sexually active.

That's a generalisation of course, and everyone is different , but on balance, that's why the age of consent is 16, because that's when the majority of adolescents do become capable.

My 13 year old niece is nowhere near ready, for example.

[ChadH]

Cognitively, the human brain doesn't develop to the point that is is able to make fully rational decisions based on forethought, personal values, and past experiences. That's why children and teens make so many bad decisions based on emotion and self centered-ness. Their brains just haven't developed enough.
Actually, some people never really develop enough to make good decisions.

[Charles RB]

Edit: Just so we are clear I am not saying that was the case in the story that was linked. I don't know any details on that one beyond what was already posted.

Then it was probably a not a good idea to jump in talking about "oh I could consent then" re a story about pre-teen girls, several from care homes, being groomed into prostitution and raped by a professional criminal gang.

EDIT: In the case of Peter Oborne talking "accepted the advances", he deserves a special, extra dollop of hate because we know the Crown Prosecution Service dropped the case first time round, because they thought the victims wouldn't be "credible" for a jury. People like Oborne and the quoted vicar would be why they might've thought that.

[mikekerrIII]

Obviously not your reality ...

Are yuo deluded enough to think there are more than one?

Sorry that was a dumb question