Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned!

[mikekerrIII]

People found guilty of rape in a court of law go unpunished???

Or were you making a false comparison.

No people are too often not charged with rapes even with good evidence and get off for some really bogus reasons. The punishment often doesn't suit the crime even if the DA goes forward.

[Paradox]

StoneGold steps up:

Yeah, but that's besides the point.

I was waiting for that (almost made the joke myself). Three minutes! Not bad!

[pariah-1972]

Isn't it? I suffered no ill effects. For people near the Texas border, it's incredibly commonplace (my mother lives there) and I've heard nothing reported as bad about it. Have you?

EDIT: I hope you haven't fallen into the "It's not 'Muricah, so it must be bad!" trap.

I've heard and seen news reports of people going to mexico or south america for doctors and plastic surgery and it coming out very badly.

The reason it's cheaper there is because it's not as hard to get a license to practice.

[Paradox]

The reason it's cheaper there is that they're not sue-happy like the U.S. and don't have to have piles and piles of malpractice insurance. That and American doctors and dentists like to make lots and lots of money. Mexico isn't South America, either. It's not a third world banana republic. In fact, much of South America isn't anymore, either.

[StoneGold]

The reason it's cheaper there is that they're not sue-happy like the U.S. and don't have to have piles and piles of malpractice insurance. That and American doctors and dentists like to make lots and lots of money. Mexico isn't South America, either. It's not a third world banana republic.

Nope, it's a narcorepublic. Which, in a roundabout way, is why the secret service got laid. Because Obama was in Colombia to talk about it.

[thehod]

Isn't it? I suffered no ill effects. For people near the Texas border, it's incredibly commonplace (my mother lives there) and I've heard nothing reported as bad about it. Have you?

EDIT: I hope you haven't fallen into the "It's not 'Muricah, so it must be bad!" trap.

I've got a couple of mates who're travelling around the world. They started 18 months ago, but had to come back to England for a short while because, get this, whilst in India on of them fell out of a moving train.

He hit the back of his calf on the footplate and butterflied all his lower leg down to the bone and lost all the flesh on his heel. Doctors said if he'd have broken the bone he'd have lost his leg.

When people back home heard what had happened, the overriding concern was whether he'd get decent medical treatment in India.

He was in Delhi for christsake. Its a modern city, with modern facilities and home to some of the best doctors in the world, but to some people they had the image of a guy in white robes saying "Oh deary, deary me" whilst standing in a mud hut.

[Paradox]

It's incredible, isn't it? "Only here is 'civilized' and the rest of the world lives like it's the Stone Age."

[USArmyParatrooper]

No people are too often not charged with rapes even with good evidence and get off for some really bogus reasons. The punishment often doesn't suit the crime even if the DA goes forward.

I don't buy such claims without hard evidence. It defies logic. There is no culture of complicity for rape. Even among robbers, gang bangers and murderers in prison, rapists are considered scumbags.

[USArmyParatrooper]

This thread and its title is dead offensive.

Well the good news is I don't have the slightest bit of care in the world about what offends you.

If you don't like the title take it up with William Congreve. He cares as much as I do.

"Heaven has no rage like love to hatred turned / Nor hell a fury like a woman scorned."

[Jeff Brady]

I don't buy such claims without hard evidence.

http://www.rainn.org/statistics

About Victims

* 44% of victims are under age 18
* 80% are under age 30

Sexual Assault Numbers

* Every 2 minutes, someone in the U.S. is sexually assaulted
* There is an average of 207,754 victims (age 12 or older) of sexual assault each year

Reporting to Police

* 54% of sexual assaults are not reported to the police
* 97% of rapists will never spend a day in jail

About Rapists

* Approximately 2/3 of assaults are committed by someone known to the victim
* 38% of rapists are a friend or acquaintance

Hell, watch a few episodes of Law & Order SVU. You'll get the idea.

[thehod]

There is no culture of complicity for rape.

I think victims of rape would disagree with you strongly.

[USArmyParatrooper]

Lots of volume, none that back his claim.

http://www.rainn.org/statistics

About Victims

* 44% of victims are under age 18
* 80% are under age 30

Sexual Assault Numbers

* Every 2 minutes, someone in the U.S. is sexually assaulted
* There is an average of 207,754 victims (age 12 or older) of sexual assault each year

Reporting to Police

* 54% of sexual assaults are not reported to the police
* 97% of rapists will never spend a day in jail

About Rapists

* Approximately 2/3 of assaults are committed by someone known to the victim
* 38% of rapists are a friend or acquaintance

Hell, watch a few episodes of Law & Order SVU. You'll get the idea.

[USArmyParatrooper]

I think victims of rape would disagree with you strongly.

Which ones. All of them?

[Jeff Brady]

Which ones. All of them?

Yes, all of them. I know a few victims to speak from experience. Chances are, you know some victims, too, but they won't ever tell you because they're afraid you won't believe them. Or that you'll make jokes about it, or otherwise demeaning their trauma.

And those stats entirely back his claim.

Oh, by the way, rape is a problem in the military.

http://iamlaurenleonardi.wordpress.c...ldiers-abroad/

http://www.banderasnews.com/1001/edat-thirdofwomen.htm

* According to a 2004 study, 71% of female veterans seeking PTSD treatment had been raped or sexually assaulted (by other US military officers).
* Another study showed that 90% of rapes in the military go unreported.
* When they are reported, 62% of those found guilty of rape or abuse received “demotion, suspension, or a written reprimand” as punishment.

http://www.towardfreedom.com/women/2...th-and-justice

[thehod]

Which ones. All of them?

The ones that have been ignored by police officers, let down by a justice system not prepared to take their claim seriously, villified by defense lawyers for what they wore, who they were or the fact they may like a drink from time to time, and ridiculed or harranged by family and friends of the person that raped them.

Even those that get convictions are not immune from people thinking that they've made it all up, as the Ched Evans case shows.

Society itself has a culture of complicity for rape.