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    If Giffen and Jurgens stayed on the series, that would be fine with me. It would be interesting to see what they're building towards right now.

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    2 question comics to my mind:

    1. Who will the artist be?

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    2. Which book will Lobdell abandon.

    I want to say he'll drop Superboy, so who do you guys want as writer? I wouldn't mind Sterling Gates or maybe Josh Williamson. Both could craft fun Superboy stories.

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    I'm loving all of Lobdell's books right now so Im happy about this. Just worried about the massive work load. Hopefully he won't use to leave one of his current titles.

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    I can't really say I hate this rumor because I'm enjoying his other Super-title quite immensely at the moment. I wonder if the rapid turnover is due to editorial, though. It can't be from sales, the vanilla Superman book is at least in the top 15, if not in the top 10 on some months.

    One trade's worth of issues out of each creative team seems way too short to build towards anything meaningful. Of course, after the abysmal Helspont 2-parter we just got through, I wouldn't blame Jurgens or Giffen one bit for wanting to bail on a book with that much editorial clout.

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    I would like to see any woman write a Superman tale for once. I know Gail did a few issues of Action, and they were pretty good.

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    I think this is the best move DC has done. They put a writer who likes to take a lot of risks on a character that has been limited to risks because he is so iconic. They've been trying to make him different and I think Lobdell is the one who is going to be able to do it.
    Since Lobdell came to DC, he has showcased the writing of what I think is the future of comics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misslane38 View Post
    No. I know he's busy with Smallville: Season 11, but can't DC give Bryan Q. Miller a chance?
    Right now the only Superman I'm enjoying is Miller's Superman in Smallville. The title Smallville for me evokes images of a moping teen crying to the strains of Lifehouse in the earlier seasons (though that all changed in seasons 9 & 10 in my opinion as he grew in to a man).

    However, that's not what this book has been, no moping or angst in sight. The first 3 issues have been, in my opinion, a lot of fun. Superman is hopeful and surrounded by friends. I loved the conversation between Lex and Clark in issue 2. Clark was a little snarky and Lex was Lex.

    Miller however has the luxury of working outside the "New 52", so he's not tied to the main universe editorial directives.

    I personally don't think writers are the problem in the New 52 Superman, I think it's the editorial mucking around trying to reinvent the character but without a clear sense of where they want to go with him. The character in JL, Action and Superman read like three different people to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by winegeek View Post
    I don't think writers are the problem in the New 52 Superman, I think it's the editorial mucking around trying to reinvent the character but without a clear sense of where they want to go with him. The character in JL, Action and Superman read like three different people to me.
    Uhh...not really. There seems to be editorial mucking, but it was more about putting Helspont in that Superman arc, not the creative decision on how Superman's character should be developed. Morrison's Action Comics is the flagship, and he usually gets free reign on what he writes. Also, Superman doesn't really do anything in Justice League, so I don't know where the third different person is coming from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Holmes View Post
    Uhh...not really.
    Yes. Really.

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    Please purge him from all present Superman family books. His Worlds Finest greatness days seem over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by custodes View Post
    Please purge him from all present Superman family books. His Worlds Finest greatness days seem over.
    I wonder if this is even going to happen or if it's one of the rumors that end up not panning out. I won't be surprised if it ends up coming to pass though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Son View Post
    Still brought back by Ra's Al Ghul? He was brought back by Superboy Prime's reality-punch. You're thinking of the Under the Red Hood animated movie.
    Sorta...in the original resurrection story (I think it was in a Batman Annual and then later on in Lost Days), Jason was resurrected by the reality-punch but was more or less braindead. Talia found him and took him to Ra's al Ghul and then, despite her father's warnings, put him in the Lazarus Pit to see if it would heal his mind. They just simplified it in the movie and had Ra's simply try to resurrect Jason with the Lazarus Pit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by winegeek View Post
    Right now the only Superman I'm enjoying is Miller's Superman in Smallville. The title Smallville for me evokes images of a moping teen crying to the strains of Lifehouse in the earlier seasons (though that all changed in seasons 9 & 10 in my opinion as he grew in to a man).

    However, that's not what this book has been, no moping or angst in sight. The first 3 issues have been, in my opinion, a lot of fun. Superman is hopeful and surrounded by friends. I loved the conversation between Lex and Clark in issue 2. Clark was a little snarky and Lex was Lex.

    Miller however has the luxury of working outside the "New 52", so he's not tied to the main universe editorial directives.

    I personally don't think writers are the problem in the New 52 Superman, I think it's the editorial mucking around trying to reinvent the character but without a clear sense of where they want to go with him. The character in JL, Action and Superman read like three different people to me.
    Smallville is sort of mixed blessing as a title, isn't it? It conveys what you need to know about the universe, but the story Miller is writing is definitely a Superman story. Fun is the perfect word to describe it, too. It's just a great cast of characters with a lot of witty dialogue and cool plot twists. I'm enjoying the book so far and plan on buying the first collected print issue this Wednesday. I need some sort of Superman fix. If editorial is partly at fault for the sad state of Superman right now, which seems likely, then perhaps Miller should stay right where he is. I agree with you that Superman is pretty close to being three different people in Action, Superman, and Justice League. But I suppose part of that is due, in my opinion, to the shallow characterization plaguing all three titles right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misslane38 View Post
    Smallville is sort of mixed blessing as a title, isn't it? It conveys what you need to know about the universe, but the story Miller is writing is definitely a Superman story. Fun is the perfect word to describe it, too. It's just a great cast of characters with a lot of witty dialogue and cool plot twists. I'm enjoying the book so far and plan on buying the first collected print issue this Wednesday. I need some sort of Superman fix. If editorial is partly at fault for the sad state of Superman right now, which seems likely, then perhaps Miller should stay right where he is. I agree with you that Superman is pretty close to being three different people in Action, Superman, and Justice League. But I suppose part of that is due, in my opinion, to the shallow characterization plaguing all three titles right now.
    Eh different stokes for different folks. Most people love JL and Action. If you not buying you shouldn't be moaning about something you not reading anyway.

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    I usually do not dis on the art but, some of Scotts' books look like they were drawn by the spokepersons for AADD. It is not just the writing.

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