Has Captain America exacted revenge on Sharon Carter for murdering him?

[One More Day]

OMD does not troll its just that a bizarre love of moonstone can get you sick

What's wrong with liking MOONSTONE?

[Movieartman]

What's wrong with liking MOONSTONE?

Nothing at all

But Seriously this is the final point of this thread!
Sharon Carter was Under the Mental Conrtol and Manipulation of the Red Skull, she is in no way responsible for her actions, and even if she in someway was she made up for it by being instrumental in bringing him back to life in Captain America Reborn, have you read it?

[Exo]

If Maria Hill could break free from the Controller, a villain who happens to specialize in controlling things, then there's no excuse/hope for Sharon Carter.

Maria had a 'slave disc' lodged deep into her neck. Sharon was reprogrammed using 17th century hypnotherapy.

Maria is evil. Bad guys are more weak willed, easier to manipulate and often give in to suggestion.

Now I know that things turned out great in the end, but what about the next time? Can Steve be so lucky that Sharon won't put an actual bullet in his head? I doubt it. I think Steve would fair better if he'd dump Sharon for her evil sister. I'd bet the sex would a lot better too (angry sex tends to be better).

[Exo]

But Seriously this is the final point of this thread!
Sharon Carter was Under the Mental Conrtol and Manipulation of the Red Skull, she is in no way responsible for her actions, and even if she in someway was she made up for it by being instrumental in bringing him back to life in Captain America Reborn, have you read it?

I think that deep down, some small part of her wanted to shoot Steve. She'll always be the girl that shot Captain America to me.

[vitruvian]

If Maria Hill could break free from the Controller, a villain who happens to specialize in controlling things, then there's no excuse/hope for Sharon Carter.

Maria had a 'slave disc' lodged deep into her neck. Sharon was reprogrammed using 17th century hypnotherapy.

Maria is evil. Bad guys are more weak willed, easier to manipulate and often give in to suggestion.

Now I know that things turned out great in the end, but what about the next time? Can Steve be so lucky that Sharon won't put an actual bullet in his head? I doubt it. I think Steve would fair better if he'd dump Sharon for her evil sister. I'd bet the sex would a lot better too (angry sex tends to be better).

It was Faustus' mind control, which has been very effective on many others including Cap himself, and is based on techniques far more recent than the 17th century. Heck, the very term hypnosis wasn't coined until the 19th century, let alone hypnotherapy.

Honestly, I'd say that Faustus has a better track record actually controlling people than the Controller with his silly little disks.

[IronMagnus]

He already did. He banged some elf girl in Avengers Prime.

What happens in Lothlorien stays in Lothlorien.

[Exo]

It was Faustus' mind control, which has been very effective on many others including Cap himself, and is based on techniques far more recent than the 17th century. Heck, the very term hypnosis wasn't coined until the 19th century, let alone hypnotherapy.

Not only did you take what I said seriously, but enough to run a facts check. Understand that, while I'm skeptical about the techniques Faustus pulled on Sharon actually existing in real life, it's the beside the point I was making. Which was a funny one.

[vitruvian]

Not only did you take what I said seriously, but enough to run a facts check. Understand that, while I'm skeptical about the techniques Faustus pulled on Sharon actually existing in real life, it's the beside the point I was making. Which was a funny one.

You'd be funnier if you knew which century was which. And no, didn't need fact checking for that, or to know that even if you want to count mesmerism as hypnotism, even Franz Mesmer is 18th century, not 17th.

Anyway, I'm not sure what the joke was intended to be... old techniques (real or fictional) are not good? Good guys who can be mind controlled suck? Is there even a punchline there?

[Exo]

You'd be funnier if you knew which century was which.

17 contra 19, I don't see the distinction in funny-level between these two.

Anyway, I'm not sure what the joke was intended to be... old techniques (real or fictional) are not good? Good guys who can be mind controlled suck? Is there even a punchline there?

It's not a joke. There's no punchline. But it is funny.

EDIT: and yes, good guys who can be mind controlled do suck.

[Choppa]

He withheld sex for a week.

[deathcry]

umm she didn't kill him, she sent his mind into the time stream... BIG difference.

[mikekerrIII]

What's wrong with liking MOONSTONE?

Liking psychopathic villains tends to to make people wonder? Especial when they have no redeeming traits

[tg1982]

Liking psychopathic villains tends to to make people wonder? Especial when they have no redeeming traits

I liked Bullseye, and Sabretooth

[vitruvian]

17 contra 19, I don't see the distinction in funny-level between these two.



It's not a joke. There's no punchline. But it is funny.

EDIT: and yes, good guys who can be mind controlled do suck.

Then they all suck, and there's nothing to be chosen between them.

[vitruvian]

Liking psychopathic villains tends to to make people wonder? Especial when they have no redeeming traits

She had redeeming traits before Thunderbolts went over to Ellis, much as I like Warren's work generally. Not many, and not sufficiently redemptive to make up for much of what she'd done, but some, and enough for Hawkeye to kinda sorta start trusting her.