Mighty Thor/Journey into Mystery

[Hockstatter]

Im not big into the Asgard side of Marvel but love JIM because of Gillen. He's one witty limey. JIM feels like Sandman for kids which is a delight. I'd prefer his arcs never crossover with Thor and remain mostly standalone like the Hellstrom arc but alas.

[Kieran_Frost]

I have read factions run of Thor until the title split into two books. Lil LOki I think is a good concePt, are the two titles worth reading though? Thors my favorite of the Big 3 and I don't gt any of the 3s titles anymore thought I'd change that, mighty Thor and Journey worth it?

Journey into Mystery is a rare gem, and definitely one of Marvel's best titles right now. It's clever, epic, funny, moving. Uncanny X-force, Thunderbolts and Journey into Mystery are the comics I would 100% recommend everyone should try.

[Post Monster]

Now I want to get JiM but sadly it starts at 632 on Comixology. Plan on purchasing Factions Thor and Moghty Thor then purchase JiM when Comix gets off there ass and puts back issues up, my one down fall of being digital :(,

Uggh, I know. They keep taking the old arcs down, which IMO is a mistake. I'm still waiting on them to finished adding the massive gap in FF so I can finish buying it.

[plushbug]

Now I want to get JiM but sadly it starts at 632 on Comixology. Plan on purchasing Factions Thor and Moghty Thor then purchase JiM when Comix gets off there ass and puts back issues up, my one down fall of being digital :(,

632 is still a good place to start. It has Hel-puppies.

[Phelpzy]

632 is still a good place to start. It has Hel-puppies.

Speaking of JiM comixology is adding 622-626 this week! Hoping on on payday, along with Mighty Thor and finally finishing Uncanny XForce since there also adding the issues they don't have :) very good week

[Hypestyle]

Why does Thor support Loki, knowing what he will grow up to be (again)?

[spursevere]

Why does Thor support Loki, knowing what he will grow up to be (again)?

Because Thor always believes that his brother will redeem himself

(plus Fraction never explained Thor's reasoning behind bringing Loki back, other than he "misses" him. The end.
Gillen, on the other hand, explained that the Old Loki was tired of his endless cycle of evil and was hoping the Child Loki would not trod down the same path).

The difference in quality of writing could not be any clearer. Fraction made me do the unthinkable, i.e. drop Thor.

Thank Odin for Gillen.

[plushbug]

Why does Thor support Loki, knowing what he will grow up to be (again)?

I wouldn't say that Thor knows Loki will grow up to be the same again.

The reasoning given for his bringing Loki back in the first place--in-story, it's that post-Siege, he's finding things really bleak, misses his brother, and feels that "All this loss wouldn't be so bad to bear were I granted someone to bear it with. Someone of my blood, of my flesh." Which is straight out of World Eaters and makes me want to get up and go bang my head on the wall, because it'd be less painful. The imagery makes it clear Thor is fixing his attention back on that golden time in boyhood when "He made me laugh like no one else alive," was charming and clever and he was never happier than when they were out hunting together, yadda, yadda...which I could buy, and love the idea of getting back to a more balanced view of Loki as a trickster god, except for the setup being demented. As in, we have Thor fixating on the boy he remembers with such affection (OK, fine) and deciding to bring him back (OK, could be understandable--even more understandable, if we were, say, ever given any clue that at the point in Siege when Loki face turns and supports Asgard's defenders, anything of his apparent shock and contrition had made it back to Thor--I mean, the elder Loki's a world-class telepath, all the way back to the '60s) BUT we also have him doing this

(a) at a point when his people haven't as much as been able to hold the funerals for the dead from Siege,
(b) the people whose views on the matter he should be showing the most consideration for, he 100% disregards, and
(c) given his apparent surprise at getting Loki back as a boy, it seems he may be expecting to get him back as the adult who died, in other words, just like all the other Asgardians he's brought back during JMS' run, essentially the same person he was, before death, ie., destructive and crazy, urgh, it's demented.

Totally inconsistent with JMS' Thor, who's smart enough to be worried about bringing Loki back, and initially determined not to do it. Staggeringly stupid and selfish in terms of any previous Thor, and the whole "of my blood, of my flesh" bit is horrendous, given he's saying this to Balder, who actually is his blood half-brother!? So it ends up being what I would now call the classic Fraction ram-through of the Big Idea, no matter how it violates any previous rendering of character or anything resembling continuity. And the pity is, if there could have been as much as one panel to suggest this weren't happening immediately after Siege, like say, after Thor had had a month or two immersed in the daily grimness of digging out Asgard's ruins, in which to stew over the possibility of Loki having died contrite over his actions, and the general nastiness of having anyone he's ever loved atomized in front of him (think PTSD, here!) it could have been...much more sellable. Which it's ended up being, because kid!Loki has in fact been such a genuinely great Big Idea, that at least the body of JIM readers are cheerfully willing to buy him including me, I still think he's the best thing anybody's ever done with the Trickster, but sadly, it remains what it is. In story terms, a duct-tape bridge over a chasm of total incredibility.

So at the low end of the continuum of possible answers, one could say

"Thor supports Loki because he's a real dumb bunny..."

and at the high end one might say

"Thor supports Loki because he's a stuffy and often over-serious god of order who's grown wise enough through experience to understand (whether or not he can express the thought) that he needs his wild-card little god of chaos brother in the world to lighten things up and keep everybody from dying of boredom."

I do like Gillen's ideas, laid down in JIM #622, about the elder Loki having engineered the whole thing because what he'd become was intolerable...and persist in hoping that given our current Loki knows about that, he'll be able to escape that fate this time.

All to be determined...

[Phelpzy]

I'm Absouletly loving what I've read of JiM so far, my new question is does it tie heavly into Mighty Thor? Cause Im not reading Thor, I'm on 626 of JiM and wanna keep reading unless I need to read Mighty Thor beside it

[Nissus]

I'm Absouletly loving what I've read of JiM so far, my new question is does it tie heavly into Mighty Thor?

Not really. Only in the future crossover, starting in #642.

[Phelpzy]

Not really. Only in the future crossover, starting in #642.

Thanks, guess I'll just get Mighty Thor during the crossover, I can't stand Factions Thor, his take on Thor is hard to put up with

[plushbug]

I'm Absouletly loving what I've read of JiM so far, my new question is does it tie heavly into Mighty Thor? Cause Im not reading Thor, I'm on 626 of JiM and wanna keep reading unless I need to read Mighty Thor beside it

No need, they're separate threads. No overlap that matters to the JIM story.