Sue and Reed need to be broken up and Reed would be better Evil

**G@ry** · 04-30-2012, 10:39 AM

Sue is a great character, but is wasted on Reed. Reed should have become evil a long time ago.

Right now all this is happening in the Ultimate Universe and it feels like a natural progression. The only problem is that Sue in the Ultimate U is not a good character like the pure angel she is in 616.

**CTpitch** · 04-30-2012, 10:51 AM

how about we make them have a deal with the devil that always works

**davidn15** · 04-30-2012, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by CTpitch

how about we make them have a deal with the devil that always works

well if we do, can it make sense this time?

**CTpitch** · 04-30-2012, 10:53 AM

not going to bash you but have you been reading the latest Fantastic four doing what you just said would be the absolute worst thing that would happen right now

**tigerkaya** · 04-30-2012, 10:55 AM

How about no! If you want Evil Reed Richards go read Ultimates.

**dbcb314** · 04-30-2012, 10:56 AM

Why copy the Ultimates Universe?

**CTpitch** · 04-30-2012, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by tigerkaya

How about no! If you want Evil Reed Richards go read Ultimates.

its pretty much simple as as this post

the whole point of Fantastic four is that they are the first superhero family
plus Reed was basically evil in Civil War

**G@ry** · 04-30-2012, 11:03 AM

Well since it's happening with Fury they might as well do it with other better things, because Ult Reed is 100% better than 616 Reed.

I liked Civil War Reed.

**tigerkaya** · 04-30-2012, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by CTpitch

its pretty much simple as as this post

the whole point of Fantastic four is that they are the first superhero family
plus Reed was basically evil in Civil War

So was Stark and Ms. Marvel, but everyone got back to normal and Civil War forgotten.

**tigerkaya** · 04-30-2012, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by G@ry

Well since it's happening with Fury they might as well do it with other better things, because Ult Reed is 100% better than 616 Reed.

I liked Civil War Reed.

and I say the opposite I've been enjoying what Hickman has done with Reed so don't bring that garbage of Ultimates. Its in its own universe.

**CTpitch** · 04-30-2012, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by G@ry

Well since it's happening with Fury they might as well do it with other better things, because Ult Reed is 100% better than 616 Reed.

I liked Civil War Reed.

Hickman's run has been so stellar and quite unique to what we see in marvel comics nowadays a full complete story with a start, a middle and an end
keep ultimate out of 616 do we really need to see magneto crack Xavier's neck with his bear hands again?

**G@ry** · 04-30-2012, 11:07 AM

I wouldn't say they became normal, but the rest of the Avengers just became like them, as we're now seeing in X-Men Vs Avengers.

Originally Posted by CTpitch

keep ultimate out of 616 do we really need to see magneto crack Xavier's neck with his bear hands again?

you're saying this as if it's not already happening and i can stop it.

Spider-Men, Fury, and there will probably be more to come.

Reed always seems like a fine hair is just holding him on the good side anyways. It's stupid to keep him good just to appease some fans and keep the status quo for movie reasons.