Superhero comic books only become art to the extent that their banal, unrealistic fantasy and garish styles go too far and become interesting. Attempts to ground them in reality can only ruin them.
Last edited by PauloIapetus; 04-30-2012 at 01:10 PM.
Originally Posted by Gail Simone
I do indeed like to bring characters back around, even in other books.
But I did not write the Knockout death scene. I believe Tony Bedard did, and he was pretty unhappy about it at the time. It was really unpleasant.
She WAS going to be Genocide, but after the first issue was already written, we got notes from editorial that we could NOT bring Knockout back because all the New Gods were dead because of Grant's reboot. I made the point that Knockout was not a New God, but a Female Fury and was shut down cold.
That story had quite a bit of editorial WTF moments. There's a lot in that book I still really like, but we definitely had to deal with a lot of odd, odd stuff being inflicted for reasons I don't really get to this day.
It doesn't change the fact that Gennycide sucked. lol.
Let's see she went from being
1. a God (ww states she is fighting a god and purple ray wont work on her godly wounds)
2. Ww's corpse )"my face is your face at the end of your life"(
3. A homemade god
4. Ares' lover
5. A spirit placed in a whittle baby
6. A channelled spirit that gives 4 amazons enough oomph to take Dianas hits but still get owned by Diana.
2 of those would have been sufficient with proper writing and pacing.
Who needs CoTM when you can have a Skullie?
I am Tangent Man! I do not care!
It would have been a much better story if Genocide had been Knockout. It would have been better still if she was Devastation. If she was Maxima it would have been epic!
Other serious problems with the story were: Cheetah screaming for mercy and surrendering when Wonder Woman threatens to sever her tail, despite WW already having done that during the Perez run, and Cheetah didn't flinch; Wonder Woman is unable to withstand Genocide's attack, and then suddenly she can beat her into a pulp, luckily right before the resolution, when Genocide disappears, leaving yet another dangling (and never resolved) storyline; the ultimate climax of the story is Wonder Woman driving an axe into Ares' head, which we all know wouldn't do anything to the immortal god of war; sure enough, he appears a few issues later with some stitches in his head.
Easy resolutions make for disappointing stories. Never-ending stories, at that.
Something that I thought had been intended to play into the character's origin was a scene or several scenes where different science themed characters were seen going around to sites of genocides and massive devastation picking up soil. I had always thought these would be used to make Genocide in a similar manner that Diana was made from clay and where Diana was mythological, Genocide would be man/technologically based.
I always thought Genocide could have been much more than what she came out to be which is obviously due to much editorial muckering about. Also, as much as I love Aaron Lopresti's work, I'm not so sure that he was the best artist for this. An artist with a little more grit, a darker tone would have been interesting.
Not all who wander are lost....
But I read the Gail scene as well, and was even more surprised at how pathetic the Cheetah seems. Diana uses her tiara to cut the side of Cheetah's face, and that's all it takes for the Cheetah to start begging.
A hero is only as good as her villains, and when a villain like Cheetah-- vicious, bloodthirsty, somewhat insane-- breaks down at the threat of physical pain, then how formidable can she be? Would we see Joker do this? Luthor? Plus, there's the fact her tail will grow back!
From what we see here, it's obvious the Cheetah is a pretty tame kitty, not a world class threat with a will of iron.
I was more focused on the Perez bit, because the first time I read that story and saw (even through the ghastly pencils of Chris Marrinan) Diana rip out Cheetah's tail, I was shocked. And I could imagine that pain. And I remember the written howl. I wasn't defending Cheetah in the hands of Gail in that arc.
And honestly, when I consider how visceral, twisted, and crafty Suicide Squad was, I think I would love to see Gail apply that sensibility to Cheetah. Nasty, vicious, and strange.
The Silver Age is best recreated by not repeating it.