Was Jean Grey a Real Character or a Clone?/X-Factor a retrospective

[ExodusCloak]

The Phoenix is just chi (life energy)on a massive scale.

This is all starting to fit perfectly into place. Chi is life energy right?

Edit...never mind.

[Aguja]

Yeah its pretty clear that the Phoenix continuity is getting a major overhaul and Jean's Phoenix continuity in particular is going to be decimated on a level unseen since the 1986 retcon.

I'll probably end up hating the Phoenix as much as Brian M. did by the end of this.

It's Marvel's funeral. They've gone too far this time. It's time we bury them and these so called 'unfans'

[Home made ectoplasm]

The Phoenix is just chi (life energy)on a massive scale.

Or death energy? Maybe the Iron Fists are the universes natural antibodies to the Phoenix force?

[darknessatnoon]

This is all starting to fit perfectly into place. Chi is life energy right?

I'm not sure if I should answer or wait for Chase-Stein, but here's what wikipedia says.

"In traditional Chinese culture, qì (also chi or ch'i) is an active principle forming part of any living thing.[1][2][3] Qi is frequently translated as life energy, lifeforce, or energy flow. Qi is the central underlying principle in traditional Chinese medicine and martial arts. The literal translation of "qi" is breath, air, or gas.
Concepts similar to qi can be found in many cultures, for example, Prana in Vedantic philosophy, mana in Hawaiian culture, Lüng in Tibetan Buddhism, and Vital energy in Western philosophy. Some elements of qi can be understood in the term energy when used by writers and practitioners of various esoteric forms of spirituality and alternative medicine. Elements of the qi concept can also be found in popular culture, for example The Force in Star Wars.[4] Notions in the west of energeia, élan vital, or vitalism are purported to be similar.[5]"

[darknessatnoon]

Steel Phoenix kicks Luke Cage in his steel ballz during one of the early preludes to AvX.

[ExodusCloak]

I'm not sure if I should answer or wait for Chase-Stein, but here's what wikipedia says.

"In traditional Chinese culture, qì (also chi or ch'i) is an active principle forming part of any living thing.[1][2][3] Qi is frequently translated as life energy, lifeforce, or energy flow. Qi is the central underlying principle in traditional Chinese medicine and martial arts. The literal translation of "qi" is breath, air, or gas.
Concepts similar to qi can be found in many cultures, for example, Prana in Vedantic philosophy, mana in Hawaiian culture, Lüng in Tibetan Buddhism, and Vital energy in Western philosophy. Some elements of qi can be understood in the term energy when used by writers and practitioners of various esoteric forms of spirituality and alternative medicine. Elements of the qi concept can also be found in popular culture, for example The Force in Star Wars.[4] Notions in the west of energeia, élan vital, or vitalism are purported to be similar.[5]"

That's good enough me. It's already been established that psionic energy = life energy in the X-books. So it all fits. The Phoenix Force is starting to make a lot more sense. I am glad they went this route now.

[Pixie_Solanas]

Yeah its pretty clear that the Phoenix continuity is getting a major overhaul and Jean's Phoenix continuity in particular is going to be decimated on a level unseen since the 1986 retcon.
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Long overdue. Or did you think that Endsong was an appropriate coda? Ttch.

[Come To Deathstrike]

Fongji is a classic case of onomastic predestination guys. If you fell for it, you're a complete mark.

[Pixie_Solanas]

Phoenix Egg, how do you feel after buying New Avengers?

[Phoenix Egg]

Fongji is a classic case of onomastic predestination guys. If you fell for it, you're a complete mark.

In Bendis Speak:

Onomastic predestination? What's onomastic predestination?

[Aguja]

Phoenix Egg cease. We are withdrawing our endorsement of this thread!

[Phoenix Egg]

Phoenix Egg cease. We are withdrawing our endorsement of this thread!

Good idea!

[/JeanFanPresence]

[ExodusCloak]

[darknessatnoon]

How many mattresses did Jean and Scott attack during X-Factor? Unbelievable.

[Henry T.]

90s Jean held Scott's optic blast back in X-Cutioner's Song.