Is Genesis Meant to Save the world or... Destroy it

[Dr. Sonic]

i like genesis because marvel didnt push him on us like they did with hope

It's a good point. Although it's kind of a bummer that Remender has stated that genesis is only 'on loan' to Aaron and WaTXM - it sort of indicates that nothing of any import is going to happen with him until the matter returns to X-Force. If that's the case, then I'd rather that WaTXM focus on characters that will be or could be ultimately relevant to the book in and of itself.

[Slant]

i like genesis because marvel didnt push him on us like they did with hope

His entire existence is forced.

[DexterSinister]

240 years from now when I decide I'm tired of taking pot shots at blue dullards and working in the unobtainium mines I will decide not to replace my cyborg chassis letting it wear out and end my unnaturally pro-longed life. By this time genesis will still be in school and progress on the matter will only be shown in the form of alternative universes.

Bobby will still not have lived up to his potential.

[GambitXRemy]

It's a good point. Although it's kind of a bummer that Remender has stated that genesis is only 'on loan' to Aaron and WaTXM - it sort of indicates that nothing of any import is going to happen with him until the matter returns to X-Force. If that's the case, then I'd rather that WaTXM focus on characters that will be or could be ultimately relevant to the book in and of itself.

true but its fun to see him do stuff and not be sideline

His entire existence is forced.

it's no like hope tho hoe has had 4 or 5 crossovers about her and two series, since messiah complex its been about hope

240 years from now when I decide I'm tired of taking pot shots at blue dullards and working in the unobtainium mines I will decide not to replace my cyborg chassis letting it wear out and end my unnaturally pro-longed life. By this time genesis will still be in school and progress on the matter will only be shown in the form of alternative universes.

Bobby will still not have lived up to his potential.

damn comics hahahahaha

[Yaggi_Rck]

It's a good point. Although it's kind of a bummer that Remender has stated that genesis is only 'on loan' to Aaron and WaTXM - it sort of indicates that nothing of any import is going to happen with him until the matter returns to X-Force. If that's the case, then I'd rather that WaTXM focus on characters that will be or could be ultimately relevant to the book in and of itself.

I think that, so far, Aaron has developed the character. At least, he made Genesis befriend Angel, show him interacting and relating to the rest of the X-Kids at the JGS, and that Deathlock future vision, and all of that will definetly play an important role when Remender brings them back to UXF.

[OmniAural]

It's a good point. Although it's kind of a bummer that Remender has stated that genesis is only 'on loan' to Aaron and WaTXM - it sort of indicates that nothing of any import is going to happen with him until the matter returns to X-Force. If that's the case, then I'd rather that WaTXM focus on characters that will be or could be ultimately relevant to the book in and of itself.

I think having him in WATXM helps flesh him out in a more natural way than having him be the centre of epic storylines like Hope has been. He can show his character through minor interactions and sub plots and then step up every now and then when the story progresses a bit further in UXF.

This way he gets to show that all that poccy stuff is his future but right here and right now he's just a kid dealing with his powers and learning to live life. Until Remender gives us more clues about his fate (if he decides that Evan has a beginning, middle and end to his character arc) then let him just grow naturally. the more integrated he becomes into life at JGSHL then the greater the impact on those relationships should anything happen.

[Quinnhop]

I think he'll get Hope pregnant and the real messiah/devil is their baby from the future.

[StellarVisions]

I've been reading Genesis's story since the resurrected Apocalypse first came up in "The Apocalypse Solution" in Uncanny X-Force, and it occurs to me that one could read this story as something of a cautionary tale against bullying.

Many of the students (and even some of the faculty) look at Evan with a look of fear in their eyes. He can tell that there’s something people aren’t telling him, and it’s starting to get under his skin. Hell, Quentin Quire even came out and called him “Kid Apocalypse” to his face. Evan has no concept of, and no connection to Apocalypse that he’s aware of, as he was raised in a virtual reality basically mimicking Superman’s origins. However, all one needs to do is look at his face to see where he comes from, and people make that connection without even blinking.

I see this story as a cautionary tale against bullying because Evan Sabahnur has been given a real chance at forging his own destiny, making his own choices as to who he’ll become. Unfortunately, people’s prejudices and preconceived notions about him could essentially be the death of “Genesis”, and the birth of “Apocalypse”, because for all the potential Evan has, he’s got more than enough raw power to go either way, and it’s entirely dependent on how people treat him. Nature vs. Nurture at it’s most literal, if you will.

I know it's unlikely, but I really want to see Genesis rebel against his past. He's got the potential to become a real hero, and I think he deserves the chance to make up for the mistakes of his predecessors.

[BLACKWINGS]

i like genesis because marvel didnt push him on us like they did with hope

Agreed. I hate Hope, and a few years of crossovers involving her hasn't made me hate her existence any less. Remender and Aaron, on the other hand, have made Genesis more interesting in a few issues of 2 titles than Marvel has made Hope in a few years of multiple titles. Unlike Hope, I actually care about the destiny of a mutant "messiah" like Genesis.

[MarvelMaster616]

I think it would be nice if Genesis didn't revert back to Apocalypse. We've had enough stories with Apocalypse. If he just goes back to being the big bad mutant tyrant we've known for years, that really doesn't give much purpose behind Genesis's character. Now if he goes bad, I'm okay with that so long as he has a different set of reasons and mentality for doing so. I just don't want him to end up too much like his predecessor.

[Yaggi_Rck]

I've been reading Genesis's story since the resurrected Apocalypse first came up in "The Apocalypse Solution" in Uncanny X-Force, and it occurs to me that one could read this story as something of a cautionary tale against bullying.

Many of the students (and even some of the faculty) look at Evan with a look of fear in their eyes. He can tell that there’s something people aren’t telling him, and it’s starting to get under his skin. Hell, Quentin Quire even came out and called him “Kid Apocalypse” to his face. Evan has no concept of, and no connection to Apocalypse that he’s aware of, as he was raised in a virtual reality basically mimicking Superman’s origins. However, all one needs to do is look at his face to see where he comes from, and people make that connection without even blinking.

I see this story as a cautionary tale against bullying because Evan Sabahnur has been given a real chance at forging his own destiny, making his own choices as to who he’ll become. Unfortunately, people’s prejudices and preconceived notions about him could essentially be the death of “Genesis”, and the birth of “Apocalypse”, because for all the potential Evan has, he’s got more than enough raw power to go either way, and it’s entirely dependent on how people treat him. Nature vs. Nurture at it’s most literal, if you will.

I know it's unlikely, but I really want to see Genesis rebel against his past. He's got the potential to become a real hero, and I think he deserves the chance to make up for the mistakes of his predecessors.

I see your point, but I don't agree with your argument (even though that's your opinion and it's a valid one). First of all, Evan's not getting bullied by the rest of the students, they're still knowing each other and even though some have been nicer than others, Quentin calling him 'Kid Apocalypse' doesn't strike me as bullying. I do think it's in that blurred line between violent name calling and poking fun at him, but not bullying per se. In fact, Evan being treated as a regular kid by the others makes him more human and it's better than everyone being 'oh no, he's yet-to-be-Apocalypse, let's all be nice to him now!'.

Anyway, you have a valid point, but in any case, Evan's got Angel to protect him

[Yaggi_Rck]

I think it would be nice if Genesis didn't revert back to Apocalypse. We've had enough stories with Apocalypse. If he just goes back to being the big bad mutant tyrant we've known for years, that really doesn't give much purpose behind Genesis's character. Now if he goes bad, I'm okay with that so long as he has a different set of reasons and mentality for doing so. I just don't want him to end up too much like his predecessor.

It would be nice if Genesis stays Genesis, and at some point Apocalypse IS revived and they both clash.. THAT would be a real blast!

[Artemis Assassin]

It would be nice if Genesis stays Genesis, and at some point Apocalypse IS revived and they both clash.. THAT would be a real blast!

I agree with that, but so far I don't have the impression that Genesis is a complete Apocalypse rip-off, I think he should get the chance to be "just another character" - as in one of the many inhabitants of marvel-verse, there's no need to make him some sort of savior or destroyer like they're apparently doing it with hope. It'd be nice to just have him around for a while and THEN maybe let him play role in sth bigger, but actually becoming Apocalypse would pretty much rob him of his right of being his own character and thus make him boring to me: If someone feels the need to start yet another Apocalypse-saga, bring Apocalypse, easy as that.

[StellarVisions]

It would be nice if Genesis stays Genesis, and at some point Apocalypse IS revived and they both clash.. THAT would be a real blast!

I was actually thinking this very thing earlier. Because Genesis is a clone of what I assume is a clone (the one created by Clan Akkaba to take control of the Final Horsemen), we don't know what's become of the original Apocalypse since he got nabbed by the Celestials after "Decimation". I'd love to see a showdown at some point between Apocalypse and Genesis!

[Dinosore]

Personally, I prefer Super Nintendo.