Susan Grimm Appreciation Thread

[wyokid]

Now you're just arguing that Reed and Sue are one in the same. This is not a good way to suggest that Sue is good/nice.

But let's talk about why we like Sue. This is an Appreciation Thread afterall.

I wasn't comparing them, I was saying that it wasn't like they just walked into a room in the middle of the day and this happened. Reed went off the deep end and started killing people, she had a pretty damn good reason to do that.

That's hilarious.
No seriously it is.

In what way?

[sage6paths]

She's only human.

Nuff said But I still hate her.

[Robbie_Jee]

I wasn't comparing them, I was saying that it wasn't like they just walked into a room in the middle of the day and this happened. Reed went off the deep end and started killing people, she had a pretty damn good reason to do that.

I'm saying that if boy does something bad, and then girl does something bad, boy and girl have both done something bad. I thought you were trying to defend Sue. Not make her out to be bad?

You're saying two wrongs make a right. I don't agree with that logic.

In what way?

Just that you managed to add female oppression into this debate.

[Kurolegacy]

Nuff said But I still hate her.

I may be among the minority here and will save my usual rant to just say, agreed.

[wyokid]

I'm saying that if boy does something bad, and then girl does something bad, boy and girl have both done something bad. I thought you were trying to defend Sue. Not make her out to be bad?

You're saying two wrongs make a right. I don't agree with that logic.

I'm not meaning to defend her actions, but rather explain why they make sense. Two wrongs DO NOT make a right.

Just that you managed to add female oppression into this debate.

Oh XD

[CaptainMarvell]

Despite her flaws, she's by far my favorite female Ultimate character. So is it Sue Grimm now? I knew they were engaged but the wedding is something I thought we would have seen.

[Kurolegacy]

Despite her flaws, she's by far my favorite female Ultimate character. So is it Sue Grimm now? I knew they were engaged but the wedding is something I thought we would have seen.

It hasn't happened yet and so I feel trolled by the thread title.

[taylor51]

I love her. If I had a scanner I'd post that scene of the Fantastic Four and the Ultimates meeting for the very first time in the Ultimate Galactus Trilogy!

P.S: Hitting aliens is great.

"She just wants you for your biology."

Priceless xD

She had the intention of a cold-blooded murderer. And she was willing to kill someone who she knew throughout most of her life. So unless you think killing someone you have or had a connection to is not wrong you have problems.

Um, are we reading the same comics? Reed had gone off the mad scientist deep end by this point. Putting him down was an excellent option, despite being emotionally painful for her to do. Since Doomsday, he's eaten half of Europe, slaughtered every Asgardian besides Thor, killed the President and every member of the Legislative Branch of the US, and essentially declared that he owns the planet and everyone else has no right to stand in the way of "progress."

Yeah, I'll go to bat for Sue's moral compass here every time, thanks.

Skank. Plus she wound up being with Reed at the end of the arc only to leave him after Ultimatum. Talk about issues.

It's easy to post scenes out of context. That "boy in every port" bit was clearly a breakup speech designed to hurt Reed's feelings, not a declaration of her intentions to sleep around. I mean, her kindest moment? No, but her feelings were hurt; it's not like Reed hadn't been really, really mean to her for the last 20 issues or so, under Thanos' influence or not.

Do I really need to say anything about that scene. REALLY?!!!????!!!?????!!!! She just got bitchslapped by Namor a couple issues ago. She is like a wife who wants to go back to an abusive husband.

Are you not familiar with the concept of a rebound? First of all, meaningless/non-committal physical companionship is a time tested way to not go crazy over heartbreak (lol), and I don't think Sue should be faulted for being lonely. Second of all, I don't remember her getting slapped, but super hero related violence probably shouldn't be equated to domestic abuse.

[G@ry]

How do you guys think 616 Peter will react if he finds out Sue is married to Ben?lol

[Wolverine12]

I don't like her personality as of late, but damn is she a good looking gal. Especially in the Greg Land drawn issues.

[Plawsky]

Yet your fine with Wasp doing it when she IS a wife beaten by an abusive husband?

Also she just said she wanted to see other people and Namor was there for her. She's trying to find happiness.

Furthermore this also happens in real life, Sue's a teenager, in my experience teenage girls almost always go for the wrong kind of guys.

Nice straw man. He said nothing about Wasp. And there's also the irony of the fact that you're defending Sue's characterization for the same reason you hate Wasp's.

Don't get me wrong, I like Sue. She's a great older sister, and her dynamic with Reed was an interesting driving force throughout Fantastic Four. I also really liked the developments during Doomsday, and I wish that She and Ben (and Mahr Vehl and Nova) would show up soon.

[Robbie_Jee]

I see quite a few bitches in the UU but Sue is certainly not one of them.

Why does Sue get all the hate and not Betty Ross who is clearly an undisputed bitch. Betty is horrible, so was the original Black Widow and so far all I've seen from Spiderwoman is a stubborn teenage girl who is desperate to be seen as a 'bitch with attitude'. Whereas Susan Storm/Grimm is the definitive definition of smart, beautiful and caring. She's also a woman of morale, love and compassion. Surely someone like Betty is much more deserving of the title 'bitch'.

[Wolverine12]

I see quite a few bitches in the UU but Sue is certainly not one of them.

Why does Sue get all the hate and not Betty Ross who is clearly an undisputed bitch. Betty is horrible, so was the original Black Widow and so far all I've seen from Spiderwoman is a stubborn teenage girl who is desperate to be seen as a 'bitch with attitude'. Whereas Susan Storm/Grimm is the definitive definition of smart, beautiful and caring. She's also a woman of morale, love and compassion. Surely someone like Betty is much more deserving of the title 'bitch'.

Betty is a total b-hole, but that doesn't mean Sue isn't one by comparison. One could argue that it's Betty's fault that the Hulk ever came back (since before Ultimates 1 Bruce supposedly had it under control). I think Black Widow is beyond what somebody would call a bitch, she's a full on murder/terrorist. Sue is an attempted murder and she is doing dirty by hooking up with Ben.

[wyokid]

Sue is doing dirty by hooking up with Ben.

HOW!!?

Ben was there for her, Reed wasn't. Reed tried to kill her and beat the shit out of her.

[sage6paths]

HOW!!?

Ben was there for her, Reed wasn't. Reed tried to kill her and beat the shit out of her.

Who said anything about Reed? Ben is a kind soul he deserves more then Sue. The moment Namor or some other guy comes along she will take them. She how fast she asked Ben to marry her. Thats going to end in problems.