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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurolegacy View Post
    If Ultimate Mysterio really doesn't have anything to do with 616 Mysterio, I'd be pretty cool to see the two of them join forces to bring down two Spider-Men. And if they are unrelated, something like this would give Mysterio a bigger scope of things seeing that their universe isn't the only one out there.
    I think it would be neat if 616 Mysterio attempted to form an alliance with Ultimate Mysterio only to have Ultimate Mysterio kick him to the curb and attempt to take over 616 since he has so far failed in the UU. Maybe even attempt to gain the 616 Zodiac Key since ours is virtually out of reach for him.

    As in: This whole crossover starts because of 616 Mysterio but the real threat is through Ultimate Mysterio.
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    Bendis confirmed that Ultimate Mysterio is 616 Mysterio on twitter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagnaInferno View Post
    Bendis confirmed that Ultimate Mysterio is 616 Mysterio on twitter.
    Um... I'm looking at his twitter feed and I don't see this. Can you post his quote?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balfro View Post
    I think it would be neat if 616 Mysterio attempted to form an alliance with Ultimate Mysterio only to have Ultimate Mysterio kick him to the curb and attempt to take over 616 since he has so far failed in the UU. Maybe even attempt to gain the 616 Zodiac Key since ours is virtually out of reach for him.

    As in: This whole crossover starts because of 616 Mysterio but the real threat is through Ultimate Mysterio.
    That just reminded me of the TMNT crossover Turles Forever where while the 80's universe caused it all, it was the 2003 Shredder who proved to be the supreme threat. Although they had to dumb down the 80's characters for it to all work.

    Still wish that Slott was involved in this considering that Amazing is his territory right now though I'm sure that Bendis compared notes before this started. Another thing I wonder is when this'll take place considering that Ultimate Spider-Man will continue while this is going on making it harder to track on the Ultimate timeline. But above all else, I can't wait to see just what the ramifications for all of this are by story's end. While painful to see, I'd like to see Peter visit Ultimate Peter's grave to honor his Ultimate counterpart.
    Holding out for a Peter/Miles team up.

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    Oh wait... I see it now. Dang, I seriously hope he is messing with us.

    So the Mysterio that was unmasked during Shrouds first arc was actually 616 Quentin Beck? That means that Ultimate and 616 have been crossing over since after Ultimatum.
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    I guess that explains why Ultimate Mysterio looks so similar to 1996 616 Mysterio... He took his old costume and just wore it while in the UU with a few upgrades.

    EDIT: I just realized that if Bendis is telling the truth then I called while just making up a random theory at the beginning of this sthread :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balfro View Post
    I guess that explains why Ultimate Mysterio looks so similar to 1996 616 Mysterio... He took his old costume and just wore it while in the UU with a few upgrades.
    Kinda raises questions as to why Mysterio kept the fishbowl look when his Ultimate look is so much more threatening. And if that's true, they've been crossing over since before that even since Ultimate Mysterio's first appearance was in Ultimate Spider-Man annual 3.
    Holding out for a Peter/Miles team up.

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    Well that was easy. Considering how excited I've been to see the return of Ultimate Mysterio, this news makes Spider-Men even more awesome. I guess Mysterio realized how much of a pathetic douche he is in 616 and went on a power trip in the UU. This is gonna be super awesome. Too bad Ultimate Peter isn't here to contribute. Time to go read all the LaFuente era UCSM again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurolegacy View Post
    Kinda raises questions as to why Mysterio kept the fishbowl look when his Ultimate look is so much more threatening. And if that's true, they've been crossing over since before that even since Ultimate Mysterio's first appearance was in Ultimate Spider-Man annual 3.
    That's right! Yes, that would be shortly prior to Ultimatum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Codah View Post
    Well that was easy. Considering how excited I've been to see the return of Ultimate Mysterio, this news makes Spider-Men even more awesome. I guess Mysterio realized how much of a pathetic douche he is in 616 and went on a power trip in the UU. This is gonna be super awesome. Too bad Ultimate Peter isn't here to contribute. Time to go read all the LaFuente era UCSM again!
    Kinda makes sense 616 Peter has him figured out, so why not not only go after a universe where Peter isn't as much of a threat but one that doesn't have nearly as many heroes to stop him?
    Holding out for a Peter/Miles team up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurolegacy View Post
    Kinda makes sense 616 Peter has him figured out, so why not not only go after a universe where Peter isn't as much of a threat but one that doesn't have nearly as many heroes to stop him?
    that's one of the key points that makes this crossover not only okay with me, but awesome. It's such a good villain story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagnaInferno View Post
    Bendis confirmed that Ultimate Mysterio is 616 Mysterio on twitter.
    I'm out. This is absolute bullshit and has made a cool Ultimate character just seem like a complete hash now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morentez View Post
    I'm out. This is absolute bullshit and has made a cool Ultimate character just seem like a complete hash now.
    I'm sorry that you don't like this story (because it's awesome to me), but I have thoroughly enjoyed your gradual decline into hatred for this series.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balfro View Post
    Mysterio was already the cause of the Shattered Dimensions video game meeting between 616 and the UU. So Marvel is basically (again) recycling a video game story for the comics (the same thing happened for the Ultimate Spider-Man video game, which lent ideas and plot to the War of the Symbiotes story arc many years later in the comics.)

    Perhaps 616 Mysterio really IS Ultimate Mysterio. Or maybe they'll meet. So many possibilities.
    You could say that they recycled the Timestorm storyline too. When 616 Peter crossed over to the 2099 universe and met a young Miguel O'Hara. Hopefully Peter doesn't do the same thing to Miles as he did to Miguel. Which was essentially telling him to quit being Spider-Man.

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    I'm thinking Bendis may need to take notes from our regional M. Night Shyamalan, Nick Spencer. The key to creating a big plot twist is not spoiling it over twitter 2 months before the mini even starts.
    Holding out for a Peter/Miles team up.

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