Peter Parker x Carlie Cooper: The Black Cat Connection

[Darthfury78]

After seeing the quick rise and fall of Peter's relationship with Carlie Cooper, I can't help but wonder if the Black Cat might have been responsible for jinxing his relationship? It seems to match the classic bad luck powers of the Black Cat. Around the time when Spider-Man broke off his relationship with Felicia for Carlie, she might have been upset with that by jinxing his relationship to Carlie. There was no way that Peter would have been reckless with his web fluid or his costume. In his past relationships(other than Mary Jane), Peter was always careful to hide all evidence that he was Spider-Man. Why was this situation different, as well as why he had to lie to someone who was likely to protect his secret from the start? The powers of the Black Cat was probably the main reason why Peter's relationship to Carlie failed because he knew that she doesn't tolerate people who lie to her. And Peter knows that before he starts a serious relationship with someone, he has to trust the woman that he is with with his secret. But Felicia's bad luck powers prevented him from revealing his secret to a woman who guard that secret with her life. Once the relationship ended, Felicia KNEW that Spider-Man would crawl back to her. But she rejected his advances because she wanted to make him suffer by making out with Daredevil in front of him. Let this be a lesson: Never reveal your latest relationship to a woman with Bad Luck powers. It also appears that Felicia got her revenge with Spider-Man for dumping her.

[Xenon]

No.

Peter never reveals his secret to anyone he doesn't have to. He didn't tell Gwen (came close a couple times), he didn't tell Mary Jane, he didn't tell Betty. He DID tell Deb, but only because he thought she was going crazy (and so did she), he did tell Felicia, but that's because he considers himself Peter Parker and therefore if he's going to have a relationship with her, as he saw it, that meant taking off the mask.

He would not have told Carlie for a long long time. And he's been reckless with his identity lots of time with no Felicia interference. No, he screwed that one up on his own.

[Darthfury78]

No.

Peter never reveals his secret to anyone he doesn't have to. He didn't tell Gwen (came close a couple times), he didn't tell Mary Jane, he didn't tell Betty. He DID tell Deb, but only because he thought she was going crazy (and so did she), he did tell Felicia, but that's because he considers himself Peter Parker and therefore if he's going to have a relationship with her, as he saw it, that meant taking off the mask.

He would not have told Carlie for a long long time. And he's been reckless with his identity lots of time with no Felicia interference. No, he screwed that one up on his own.

Since he DID tell Felicia, she might have been upset with the fact that he's seeing another woman. Thus, she placed a hex on him. Spider-Man's life resonate through Peter Parker as well. And let's not forget that her Bad Luck powers were restored to her around that time. So, Felicia was free to do whatever she wanted with her powers. Even to ensure that Spidey's secret identity life as Peter Parker would be affected as well.

[Kevin Nichols]

Since Felicia doesn't know that Pete is Spider-Man, she couldn't have put any kind of hex on him. Since Felicia doesn't really have the ability to put a hex on anyone, she couldn't have put a hex on him. Since her powers only affect people in her immediate vicinity, she couldn't have been responsible for the breakup.

I'm going to say no.

[Kevinroc]

I don't like this idea at all. It flies in the face of one of the most important tenants of Spider-Man. That Peter's need to be Spider-Man comes at a tremendous cost to his personal life. This is simple and direct. This Black Cat "idea" just over complicates and dilutes one of the very basic themes of Spider-Man.

[destro]

Since he DID tell Felicia, she might have been upset with the fact that he's seeing another woman. Thus, she placed a hex on him. Spider-Man's life resonate through Peter Parker as well. And let's not forget that her Bad Luck powers were restored to her around that time. So, Felicia was free to do whatever she wanted with her powers. Even to ensure that Spidey's secret identity life as Peter Parker would be affected as well.

That isn't how her powers work though, unless they have been changed since the last time I paid attention. The last I knew she had limited to no choice in how her powers worked. Just random bad things would happen to people who attacked her, or anyone who was regularly near her. She never put hexes on people, that was not part of her power set.

[Xenon]

That isn't how her powers work though, unless they have been changed since the last time I paid attention. The last I knew she had limited to no choice in how her powers worked. Just random bad things would happen to people who attacked her, or anyone who was regularly near her. She never put hexes on people, that was not part of her power set.

I believe, based upon the appearance that she is able to direct them as she pleases within her immediate vicinity. At least, that's how it made it seem. OF course, it doesn't work when she's not around, so that still doesn't work, but it's not completely happenstance.

And for what it's worth,it doesn't appear to have ever been truly uncontrollable, as if you read the original run in Spectacular, bad things seemed to happen in tandem with her emotional state. That is, when she was angry at Peter, bad stuff started happening to him.

[Spider-Dragon]

After seeing the quick rise and fall of Peter's relationship with Carlie Cooper, I can't help but wonder if the Black Cat might have been responsible for jinxing his relationship? It seems to match the classic bad luck powers of the Black Cat. Around the time when Spider-Man broke off his relationship with Felicia for Carlie, she might have been upset with that by jinxing his relationship to Carlie. There was no way that Peter would have been reckless with his web fluid or his costume. In his past relationships(other than Mary Jane), Peter was always careful to hide all evidence that he was Spider-Man. Why was this situation different, as well as why he had to lie to someone who was likely to protect his secret from the start? The powers of the Black Cat was probably the main reason why Peter's relationship to Carlie failed because he knew that she doesn't tolerate people who lie to her. And Peter knows that before he starts a serious relationship with someone, he has to trust the woman that he is with with his secret. But Felicia's bad luck powers prevented him from revealing his secret to a woman who guard that secret with her life. Once the relationship ended, Felicia KNEW that Spider-Man would crawl back to her. But she rejected his advances because she wanted to make him suffer by making out with Daredevil in front of him. Let this be a lesson: Never reveal your latest relationship to a woman with Bad Luck powers. It also appears that Felicia got her revenge with Spider-Man for dumping her.

Believe it or not Peter himself was being careless with his identity due to depending on the mindwipe/mindblock that was protecting it. At the time he knew that no one would be able to put two and two together to figure out that he was Spider-Man.

[Xenon]

Since he DID tell Felicia, she might have been upset with the fact that he's seeing another woman. Thus, she placed a hex on him. Spider-Man's life resonate through Peter Parker as well. And let's not forget that her Bad Luck powers were restored to her around that time. So, Felicia was free to do whatever she wanted with her powers. Even to ensure that Spidey's secret identity life as Peter Parker would be affected as well.

Current Black Cat has no sense of jealously, possession, or love, only meaningless sex. She would only hex him if she cared, and she has made it abundantly clear she does not.

[Darthfury78]

Current Black Cat has no sense of jealously, possession, or love, only meaningless sex. She would only hex him if she cared, and she has made it abundantly clear she does not.

That is until she gets her memories of Peter Parker being Spider-Man once again. Let's hope that doesn't happen anytime soon. Also, if she wanted meaningless sex, why did she tell him that she doesn't do the rebound thing? I will only say that if her memories of Peter Parker as Spider-Man are returned to her, it'll be interesting to see how things will turn out. My opinion is that she'll go after him with a vengeance.

[Spider-Dragon]

That is until she gets her memories of Peter Parker being Spider-Man once again. Let's hope that doesn't happen anytime soon. Also, if she wanted meaningless sex, why did she tell him that she doesn't do the rebound thing? I will only say that if her memories of Peter Parker as Spider-Man are returned to her, it'll be interesting to see how things will turn out. My opinion is that she'll go after him with a vengeance.

Speak for yourself, Darthfury78. I want everyone who knew Peter was Spider-Man before OMD to know his identity again. Black Cat's character was much more interesting when she knew Peter was Spider-Man. Now she's lost all she gained and regressed...that's not good for any character.

[Darthfury78]

Speak for yourself, Darthfury78. I want everyone who knew Peter was Spider-Man before OMD to know his identity again. Black Cat's character was much more interesting when she knew Peter was Spider-Man. Now she's lost all she gained and regressed...that's not good for any character.

I agree. Except that she once knew that Peter was Spider-Man. If she regains her memories back, she would go after Spidey with a vengeance, in my opinion. But, I do not feel that she's going to get those memories back anytime soon. And if she does, Felicia would be very upset with the notion that she agreed to have a no strings attached relationship. Something that she would never have agreed to with regards to Peter Parker. Also, let's not forget that Felicia isn't the only super heroine partner(mutual interest) that Spidey has, since that list is only going to expand to include others as well. And the whole point is that I want to see other heroines partner up with Spidey other than The Black Cat in the same sort of relationship that she had with him before OMD. A time frame where he was married to Mary Jane and still had The Black Cat as his crime fighting partner. Something that the other heroines that I've talked about would fall into that category.