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    I quite like the variant:



    I could see Fabok becoming a big star. His style is like a cross of many of the most popular comics artists these days (Lee, Finch, Gary Frank, etc).

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    For the record, Tony Daniel told me on his blog that his "Jeremiah Arkham as Black Mask" arc is no longer in continuity and Roman Sionis' death is no longer in continuity. It seems to me this was a post Batman #1 being drawn decision as it was obvious that the Black Mask in the panel was modeled after Jeremiah Arkham.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hanotsri View Post
    For the record, Tony Daniel told me on his blog that his "Jeremiah Arkham as Black Mask" arc is no longer in continuity and Roman Sionis' death is no longer in continuity. It seems to me this was a post Batman #1 being drawn decision as it was obvious that the Black Mask in the panel was modeled after Jeremiah Arkham.
    Daniel's "late decision" to join the Night of the Owls party coinciding with the cleaning up of that issue seems to me like an example of "I don't think I have anything to say about the Owls ... hold on wait a minute, I can totally use this to clean up that slightly larger than we expected mess". It's not the first time creators called something "out of continuity" but then decided to address it anyway, and I'm glad that he did. It shows flexibility, as well as paying attention to some of the hardcore fans. But more than that, I just like the idea that as he was thinking about one thing and approached about the other, he came up with something and just decided to implement it.
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    Am I the only one who thinks that Tony Daniel is introducing too many villains that he won't be able to juggle properly? It's almost like the McDaniel Static Shock issues that had so many villains that none got a real focus. It's one thing to have Easter eggs with known villains but he's creating completely new ones.
    Seems he writes okay dialogue when there's no heroes on scene. His Batman and Hawkman voices are trite and cliche.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CagedLeo730 View Post
    Am I the only one who thinks that Tony Daniel is introducing too many villains that he won't be able to juggle properly? It's almost like the McDaniel Static Shock issues that had so many villains that none got a real focus. It's one thing to have Easter eggs with known villains but he's creating completely new ones.
    Seems he writes okay dialogue when there's no heroes on scene. His Batman and Hawkman voices are trite and cliche.
    I don't know how many of them are brand-new.

    Zsasz, Steeljacket, Fright, Clayface, Nocturna, and Black Mask are all past (pre-R.I.P.) DC villains for Batman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MajorHoy View Post
    I don't know how many of them are brand-new.

    Zsasz, Steeljacket, Fright, Clayface, Nocturna, and Black Mask are all past (pre-R.I.P.) DC villains for Batman.
    My bad. I guess that Steeljacket, Fright and Nocturna are more obscure members of Batman's rogues. How about the bad guys in Penguin's casino? How many are new and how many are obscure?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CagedLeo730 View Post
    My bad. I guess that Steeljacket, Fright and Nocturna are more obscure members of Batman's rogues. How about the bad guys in Penguin's casino? How many are new and how many are obscure?
    Those are new

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Jim View Post
    I think this looks real good.
    I'm glad Daniel's back. I think he lost it after Battle for the Cowl.

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    I always thought it was a big mistake in making Jeremiah into the Black Mask. Come to think of it, I always thought it was a big mistake in killing Roman off to begin with. So I'm glad that everything is back to the way it should be in regards to the Black Mask and I certainly wouldn't mind seeing Scott Snyder have a storyline that featured the Black Mask, I could already envision him having fun with the False Face Society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman&theWolverines View Post
    I really hope so because it recently dawned on me that the Birds of Prey solicit says that Batgirl appears in that issue so that might mean Barbara is also going to appear in two places during the night.
    I think in Batgirl she's stopping a Talon from murdering her father, and then in BOP the Talon is there to kill all of the Birds, including her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CagedLeo730 View Post
    My bad. I guess that Steeljacket, Fright and Nocturna are more obscure members of Batman's rogues. How about the bad guys in Penguin's casino? How many are new and how many are obscure?
    I'm not sure when Steeljacket is from, though I do know he's from somewhere. Fright is from "As the Crow Flies", one of Winnick's stories. You know, the one that had the Scarecrow turn into a giant mutant monster. Nocturne is from the Jason Todd stories Pre-Crisis, though she was used during RIP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jody Garland View Post
    I'm not sure when Steeljacket is from, though I do know he's from somewhere. Fright is from "As the Crow Flies", one of Winnick's stories. You know, the one that had the Scarecrow turn into a giant mutant monster. Nocturne is from the Jason Todd stories Pre-Crisis, though she was used during RIP.
    The Grand Comics Database has Steeljacket first appearing towards the end of the Prodigal storyline from 1994.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retro315 View Post
    Daniel's "late decision" to join the Night of the Owls party coinciding with the cleaning up of that issue seems to me like an example of "I don't think I have anything to say about the Owls ... hold on wait a minute, I can totally use this to clean up that slightly larger than we expected mess". It's not the first time creators called something "out of continuity" but then decided to address it anyway, and I'm glad that he did. It shows flexibility, as well as paying attention to some of the hardcore fans. But more than that, I just like the idea that as he was thinking about one thing and approached about the other, he came up with something and just decided to implement it.
    exactly if tony daniel was this efficient all the time, dc would be a better place

    i just had a brilliant idea What if the Mad Hatter became The Black Mask!

    Nocturna! Yeeeaaaaaahhhh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Movieartman View Post
    i just had a brilliant idea What if the Mad Hatter became The Black Mask!
    "Brilliant" is a subjective term.

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    Ahh why doesn't DC put Detective comics up on Comixology quicker?! It's about 7pm in the UK (at the earliest) before I can download it. Dark Horse has their comics up at midnight (US time), so when I wake up I can download them straight away. Would be nice to be able to do the same with Tec.

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